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Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by boncho
The facts are the facts, Boncho...
This has nothing to do with false left-right paradigms, nice try though
What it does concern is the American taxpayer funding "terrorism", that is the original topic here
How were they funding terrorism. There was how many people in the family, the two brothers, the mother and father? It says 'parents' so I assume it's plural.
“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,”
No, no it's not.
That is only 2500/year.
Take for instance this tax credit program, they could have alone taken in $12,500 in one year had they installed "green energy" equipment.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? It doesn't.
What the hell does them getting certain benefits over a 10 year period? Nothing. Did it cause them to radicalize into enemies of the state? Did it make them pervert their Muslim faith into something that justified killing innocent civilians? No? Okay, so it is of no relevance.
Are you going to seriously throw a fit because (the family) of two nutjobs were able to file for welfare benefits? Do you throw the same fit when a US armed group attacks soldiers overseas, causes terror attacks overseas, etc? Are you demanding justice for all the aide, for all the weapons and training that was given to various militia or government groups in the Middle East over the years which has since been used to attack US military, US people directly, US friendly nations in terror attacks... etc?
Does the welfare have anything to do with the attack? No, it doesn't. Unless that was their total income (Which I highly doubt) they did not need it to do what they did.
Now, on the other hand, when the US trained and armed Saddam Hussein's armies, which in turn used those weapons and training to kill US soldiers, well, that one was a bit of an "oopsy"
Originally posted by Tranceopticalinclined
I'd like to clear some things up, since I am on some forms of Welfare, I'm also a Air Force Veteran, and recently recovering from server digestion problems suffered over the past 10 years.
For one, Food stamps cannot buy anything other than cold organics. meaning, if it is not having to be kept warm, and can be consumed by human beings, you can buy it with foodstamps be it the store who sells the product accepts them.
You cannot buy ANYTHING else warm or not organic.
Now with TCA ( Temporary cash assistance ) you can get 300 I believe a month, but that's only if you are seen by a social worker weekly, are proving that you are seeking employment, have kids and need that money to keep a major necessity available to you. You must pass drugs tests, and manual screenings as well financial checks to make sure you are not having other accounts or property elsewhere that could of been liquidated and used prior to receiving funds.
Originally posted by BellaSabre
People come to the land of milk and honey, wanting a nice big gulp, and give us nails and ball bearings in return.
It literally makes me nauseated to think about it.edit on 4/30/2013 by BellaSabre because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by boncho
Boncho...the Mother of this poor desperate family, can't even come back to the Country that gave her all those benefits due to shoplifting charges against her. It's not like she was stealing food from Walmart to feed her poor starving family.
She stole from one of the most expensive, exclusive Woman's apparel stores...Lord and Taylor...$1,600....
Sorry, you argument falls on deaf ears at this point....
Des
edit on 30-4-2013 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by FirstCasualty
Really....really really...you condone and applaud stealing...
Des
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by FirstCasualty
As a Woman, I can tell you, you don't steal from Lord and Taylor because you are hungry. You steal there for high fashion you want to wear.
Des
Where did you come up with any information about their qualifying for tax credits because of solar upgrades?? Can you provide a source?
Let me refresh your memory:
"The Tsarnaev family, including the suspected terrorists and their parents, benefited from more than $100,000 in taxpayer-funded assistance — a bonanza ranging from cash and food stamps to Section 8 housing from 2002 to 2012, the Herald has learned.
“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today."
Source
Notice the words MORE THAN, CASH and HOUSING and plus there is no way yet to know what the person making the comment has seen that hasn't gone public yet.
I might have been raised on a farm, but I don't know of any way of dividing 100,000 by 10 and coming up with 2,500...
“The breadth of the benefits the family was receiving was stunning,” said a person with knowledge of documents handed over to a legislative committee today."
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by FirstCasualty
As a Woman, I can tell you, you don't steal from Lord and Taylor because you are hungry. You steal there for high fashion you want to wear.
Des
Originally posted by sdcigarpig
Beyond the amount, as it goes back 10 years, so that is not the issue that most should have. This family came here, claiming persecution, and granted asylum. They left Russia and moved here, then freely moved back home, after being granted said asylum. That should be where the outrage should be, not at the amount of assistance they received over the years, but that they came here claiming that they were persecuted only to turn around and move back to the very country that they were fleeing from.
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by FirstCasualty
As a Woman, I can tell you, you don't steal from Lord and Taylor because you are hungry. You steal there for high fashion you want to wear.
Des