Contrails at 47,000 feet

White Knight carrier lets goof it at 47,000 feet and look at those contrails!! - video link (doesn't appear to be on YT yet, so video is embedded in article)

Spaceship 2 uses a throttleable hybrid rocket motor - Rocket Motor Two

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Obviously dropping chemtrails contrails on people at 30,000 feet wasn't enough. They created a space program just to up the ante!

It's a rocket engine not a jet engine. What is the point of this thread? Grasping at the debunking straws a bit.

reply to post by smarterthanyou


The carrier plane has jet engines, and the point is exactly what the title says - contrails at 47,000 feet - it doesn't actually debunk anything AFAIK.

Are you unable to comprehend the concept of not being debunked??

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Nobody is saying that Contrails are Chemtrails. We are saying the phenomenon is happening simultaneously. On some days the contrails will dissipate and absorb into the air, as they should. Even on days when the dewpoint is high and the air is almost fully saturated they still get absorbed.

Other days when the air isn't fully saturated and you would very much expect contrails to be asborbed into the air and NOT form clouds, they stick around or... like what is happening today, they fade and spread out before forming clouds and then continue to linger on and spread out and become more opaque.

Today is a spray day in Central NY (Oneida County) why don't you go outside and observe your area.

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Nobody is saying that Contrails are Chemtrails.

Well, pretty much everyone on here who believes in chemtrails IS calling contrails chemtrails because the latter DOES NOT EXIST in the real world. Or at the very least, cannot be shown to exist, by anybody.

We are saying the phenomenon is happening simultaneously. On some days the contrails will dissipate and absorb into the air, as they should. Even on days when the dewpoint is high and the air is almost fully saturated they still get absorbed.

Other days when the air isn't fully saturated and you would very much expect contrails to be asborbed into the air and NOT form clouds, they stick around or... like what is happening today, they fade and spread out before forming clouds and then continue to linger on and spread out and become more opaque.

Today is a spray day in Central NY (Oneida County) why don't you go outside and observe your area.

BINGO! You think contrails cannot persist or promulgate cirrus formation and you believe in chemtrails. You expose your own ignorance nd don't even know your doing it.

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Nobody is saying that Contrails are Chemtrails.

Where did I mention chemtrails??

Why wouldn't contrails spread out when atmospheric conditins are right for that to happen?

Clouds spread out - they always have, and they always will when atmospheric conditions are suitable.

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Other days when the air isn't fully saturated and you would very much expect contrails to be asborbed into the air and NOT form clouds, they stick around

Now when you say "isn't fully saturated" are you talking about at ground level, or are you saying that about the height contrails will form?

Because there is a difference...

Today is a spray day in Central NY (Oneida County) why don't you go outside and observe your area.

And you know they are chemtrails how?

What makes them different than any other contrail?

Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by smarterthanyou

 

Now when you say "isn't fully saturated" are you talking about at ground level, or are you saying that about the height contrails will form?

Because there is a difference...

And jsut to explain that to those who might not understand "fully saturated" at ground level means rain or other precipitation, because there is plenty of nucleation material around - so much so that the atmosphere cannot actualy be "supersaturated" - ie it cannto hold more than 100% relative humidity.

Fully saturated with respect to ice at 30,000+ feet does not mean you see anything at all - because without ice nucelation material such as dust teh moisture does nto actually precipitate out of the air!! As a result you CAN have an atmosphere wher there is more than 100% humidity!

then as soon as you intriduce nucleation material such as the soot and other particles in the exhaust of a jet aircraft the moisture DOES get somewher to nucleate, and precipitate outs "en mass" to the extent that it has been estimated that the moisture from the engine is only a small % of the total in a contrail.

And of course the ice crystals int ht contrail are also nucleation sites - so they can cause even more precipitation!

So if you have a wide swathe of the atmosphere that is super saturated then you MUST get a could sheet from a contrail as it causes all that excess moisture to condense out - it is not possible for anything else to happen in those circumstances!