reply to post by woodwardjnr
Hm. Maybe I read too much into that but isn't that a little like putting different values on people's lives?
I mean, these servicemen, aren't they trained, equipped and even paid and employed for war, on a totally voulantary basis?
How does that
relate to all the hundreds of thousands of dead, wounded and displaced unarmed civillians, including children and elderly?
You know I like and respect you woodward, so it is not about offending you, I know you are a cool guy but I just felt the need to put some
perspectives on that. You are totally accurate on the other stuff though; justifying an intervention by any state
would be very tricky but if
the Security Council would support it, it would more be the community
I am trying not to be overly idealistic here and at the same time not overly pesimistic either...
Both sides, or actually all
sides are acting really bad here. I personally think it just a matter of who has what resources to kill with not
what side they belong to. Would there be an intervention it would have to be to pacify all participants like in the Balkans (may be a matter of
definition in that case though).
Just supporting the FSA, who ever the hell they are, with money and supplies is probably going to turn out like Afghanistan in the early 80's.
Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by woodwardjnr
It's just the hypocracy which tells us we shouldn't be meddling in the internal affairs of Syria. Everything Assad has been blamed for I'm sure a
country somewhere else in the immediate region is guilty of.
That simply is just not the case:
Syria responded to months of peaceful protests with brutal force involving indiscriminate air and artillery assaults on residential areas and
apparent targeting of civilians, and torture, which constitute war crimes and crimes against humanity, pushing the political confrontation into an
internal armed conflict. The opposition is increasingly conducting offensive operations. Some opposition forces have carried out serious abuses like
kidnapping, torture, and what appear to be extrajudicial executions. The spread and intensification of fighting have led to a dire humanitarian
situation with hundreds of thousands internally displaced or seeking refuge in neighboring countries.
he air strikes Human Rights Watch documented killed at least 152 civilians. According to a network of local Syrian activists, air strikes have
killed more than 4,300 civilians across Syria since July 2012.
Another classified document, dated April 13, contains an order from Maj. Gen. Ali Mamlouk, head of the Syrian Intelligence Agency, to Col. Hafez
Makhlouf, the cousin of President Bashar al-Assad, to head to Homs for the purpose of moving a batch of land-to-land missiles, to be used against the
civilian neighborhoods protesting against Assad’s regime.
I don't know where else this is happening at the moment, in the immediate area at least. It was briefly like this in Libya yes, but NATO came in and
sorted that out just in time
with nothing but one (1)
allied casualty: an US airman who died in a traffic accident on his way to the
airbase. In Italy.
And I totally do not buy that silly "we in the US are also oppressed" bullcrap. Such talk is out of its element, typically written from the comfort
of someones nicely heated and well fed home.
Much of the discussion in this thread I find 1) badly informed about just how severe the situation in Syria really is and 2) very much USA-centric.
About the latter, I guess it gives itself but this is really about the UN and whether it wants to keep some legitimacy or not. The US is the greater
contributary, that is true, but this is about the system