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A ruling from The Oregon Court of Appeals said that the parents did not have the right to exempt their children from forced vaccinations after child welfare workers and the Oregon Department of Human Services fought to obtain a court order demanding the children receive multiple vaccinations last year. The court also decided that since the state had custody of the children, it had the right to make all their medical decisions without the parents' consent. Although the children are living with relatives, they are considered wards of the state. The parents, who say vaccinations are against their religious beliefs, had their children removed for undisclosed reasons last year after the state claimed concerns over their welfare. Despite the ruling, it appears the children have yet to be vaccinated while the parents have the option of appealing the ruling to Oregon's Supreme Court.
Originally posted by daryllyn
Is this one more step towards mandatory vaccines?
I remember a recent story where nurses lost their jobs because, they didn't want to get a flu shot.
There was also a recent thread about our children not being 'ours' anymore, could this be further evidence of that?
I don't vaccinate my children anymore. I was given several vaccines that were required for college and my health took a nosedive after receiving them. I can't prove a link, but, I can't get past the feeling that they played a role. I will be affected by this for the rest of my life and I will not subject my children to them. If they wish to get inoculated when they are adults, that is fine. They will be old enough to understand the risks at that point. I don't think it is right to inject them with something that could have life long consequences before they have the cognitive ability to fully understand that choice.
My sister is a nurse and was required to get a flu shot or lose her job.
She didn't want to but did anyways and is just fine.
Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by Hopechest
My sister is a nurse and was required to get a flu shot or lose her job.
She didn't want to but did anyways and is just fine.
I'm sorry she was put into that position.
I don't think it is right to force someone to be injected with anything, ever.
I can understand the reasoning behind it from a nursing standpoint, because, it is essentially to protect the patients that may be immunocompromised, but, I don't agree that the employee's rights should be violated by forcing them to chose between their job or an inoculation.
Vaccination should not be mandated.
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by bozzchem
And if a parent decides they want to conduct female genital mutilation as part of their religious beliefs on their young daughter should the state allow that also?
After all, don't the parents know better what is for their children or not?
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by bozzchem
And if a parent decides they want to conduct female genital mutilation as part of their religious beliefs on their young daughter should the state allow that also?
After all, don't the parents know better what is for their children or not?
Originally posted by StarsInDust
reply to post by bozzchem
My husband has been getting these flu shots for about 15 years. Twice after receiving the flu shot, I had to rush him into the emergency room with a fever of about 106.
He still insists these shots are safe, and that the medical profession would never lie to him. I say anyone who is giving out free shots, and they are able to make money off of you getting sick, is at least worth stepping back, and looking at...
Anyways you won't see me getting anywhere near these shots, and I am the one that is stuck nursing him back to health when he does get sick from them.
Originally posted by StarsInDust
reply to post by bozzchem
My husband has been getting these flu shots for about 15 years. Twice after receiving the flu shot, I had to rush him into the emergency room with a fever of about 106.
He still insists these shots are safe, and that the medical profession would never lie to him. I say anyone who is giving out free shots, and they are able to make money off of you getting sick, is at least worth stepping back, and looking at...
Anyways you won't see me getting anywhere near these shots, and I am the one that is stuck nursing him back to health when he does get sick from them.
Originally posted by Habit4ming
Originally posted by StarsInDust
reply to post by bozzchem
My husband has been getting these flu shots for about 15 years. Twice after receiving the flu shot, I had to rush him into the emergency room with a fever of about 106.
He still insists these shots are safe, and that the medical profession would never lie to him. I say anyone who is giving out free shots, and they are able to make money off of you getting sick, is at least worth stepping back, and looking at...
Anyways you won't see me getting anywhere near these shots, and I am the one that is stuck nursing him back to health when he does get sick from them.
Sadly, too often it's all about the money. Your husband doesn't think the medical profession would ever lie to him? Is he aware that Bayer (Aspirin) Company DELIBERATELY, so as to not lose money, sold AIDS-infected medication overseas (they were not permitted to sell it here)....mostly to children with hemophilia....the B**tards!!
If they are capable of that, imo, they are capable of just about anything! They should all be in prison--or worse!
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
reply to post by bozzchem
These parents do not have custody of the children. They are DNA donors, nothing more. They have no more right to deny these children medical care than I do.
Originally posted by StarsInDust
My husband has been getting these flu shots for about 15 years. Twice after receiving the flu shot, I had to rush him into the emergency room with a fever of about 106.
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by bozzchem
And if a parent decides they want to conduct female genital mutilation as part of their religious beliefs on their young daughter should the state allow that also?
After all, don't the parents know better what is for their children or not?