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Originally posted by SilentKoala
Or, everyone can just get along and live in peace and accept eachother's religious differences without anyone pushing anyone.
Originally posted by bodrul
Originally posted by Hopechest
You haven't misproven anything I've said. Of course the Israelites were nomads also, I never said anything to the contrary but they were smart enough to align themselves with the power players in the world whereas the Palestinians were not.
Instead of asking yourself about silly UN rules you should be asking why the Arab community turned its back on Palestine during the two large jewish immigration pushes. It was at this point that the Palestinians should have begun fighting back instead of relying on some parliamentary governing body to decide their fate.
what is done is done
Israel holds the land for military purpose and has an axed them on the grounds of defense
hence the UN laws which surround and regulate what actions Israel can and cant do.
The war is Long over.
for you Silly UN rules to the rest of us these are principles all countries signed to should be following and sticking to, you cant pick and choose what laws you like and what you don't.
this is not the medieval era but the modern era.
you can stick to your medieval preaching
while the rest of us stay in the modern period
Originally posted by undertheraydar
reply to post by bodrul
I think it has been for some time now. Israel continues the blockade and to build settlements in disputed areas while the other side continues the terrorist attacks and both are aided by many different countries in the form of "aid". I don't agree with the opression from the Israel side or the terroist antics of the Palestine side. I think both should sit down have a few beers and a few hookas and get along. And the US don't need to be present period. We don't live there so why intervene?
Originally posted by Hopechest
As far as the UN is concerned, yes you can.
The US picks and chooses all the times which rules they want to follow. Whether you agree or not, Israel exists because we want it to. Its our only solid base from which to operate in the Middle East and of vital strategic importance. The conflict with the Palestinians does not matter when it comes to America's national security interests.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Those are not my views per se, they are just an acknowledgement of the realist view that America's foreign policy has almost always operated under. Had the Palestinians been more accommodating of US needs, and Britains for that matter, they may very well have the land and the Jewish people may be in Ethiopia, which actually a few of their negotiaters wanted in the first place.edit on 4-4-2013 by Hopechest because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by SilentKoala
What is enlightening about Zionist terrorists caving in childrens skulls, decapitating innocent people, dropping bombs on families heads and stealing land against the agreements of the mandates drawn out? Now what I said above happened in 1948. These atrocities have been covered up and now we are expected to play the tolerance card with those murderers? No, not from my end.. What goes around comes around and I hope it comes around soon for the Zionists. I pray for the innocent Jews in Israel but the leaders can go to hell. They are a disgusting breed of Christian/Jewish alliance who will bring the world to it's knees.
Originally posted by SilentKoala
I didn't say those things were enlightening. I don't think those things are enlightening at all. I said we shouldn't just replace that with a different breed of fundamentalism. We should replace both breeds of fundamentalism with enlightenment.
Originally posted by charles1952
Dear DarknStormy,
You may well be right, I don't know. But that still leaves my question unanswered. Say that they're terrible, evil, anything else you might say. Where do we go from here?
And do we apply the same solution to other, similar nations?
With respect,
I mean, Get real, wake up, and stop being so damn arrogant people! -Set an example for the next generation!