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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by LogicIsUnderrated
Thanks for the outrageous personal assault.
When the message is uncomfortable, assault the messenger is an age old habit.
However, in terms of the OP, satan always sides AGAINST ISRAEL.
That's the case in the Biblical record.
That's the case in our era.
There are not a lot of options, from God's perspective.
Evidently many are still making poor choices.
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by CrypticSouthpaw
NOPE.
Not my reality.
Clever components of an END TIMES delusion, however. . . as predicted.
Betting on the wrong horse is not a good survival habit, custom, preference.
I can understand, however, how the theory you espouse . . . would be attractive . . . to those with certain values and inclinations.
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The OP discusses the God of the Bible's priorities for Israel and His fierce defense of Israel to very dramatic degrees.
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Alternate intrepretations may be slightly to mildly interesting to a point. I don't believe they have any lasting validity in "real" life.
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I've persistently experienced the God of the Bible's confirmations as who He is and what He's about.
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NONE of the alternate explanations have ever proven anything but false in my life.
edit on 1/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: an addition
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by CrypticSouthpaw
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I still disagree with your construction on reality.
I believe the OP sources and the Bible are accurate as is.
Yahweh insists that those who earnestly SEEK HIM SHALL FIND HIM.
His Manual is a sufficient guide.
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edit on 1/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: unnecessary--you already did the edit Thanks
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Sounds like a god i want to know.
Follow me or else!!
I dont need a bible thimping jesus freak to tell me that there is going to be another earthquake.
It really amazes me. You know, the whole god is great, trust jesus, allah, or whomever your flavor is,,,, because if you dont embrace them then you will be destroyed.
Sounds pretty sick and twisted.
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
My turn.
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I have 4 questions for you:
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1. Assume the OP prophecies come true--abundantly and obviously true. Would such an eventuality alter your perceptions of reality in the least? Why/ why not?
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2. Assume that the rest of the Biblical prophecies about the END TIMES . . . e. g. the Mark of the Beast; overt demanded worship of satan etc. come true and you live to see it . . . would that alter your perceptions of reality in the least? Why/ why not?
3. Assuming both 1 & 2 above . . . would any such eventualities alter your BEHAVIORS in the least?
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4. Would you still reject the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Son and Holy Spirit?
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by BO XIAN
All brimstone and fire you are....I pity your students. I just hope you are not teaching religious matters we need the old ideas to die off. Oh and they are dying off people are waking up to reject your kind of Christianity.edit on 1-4-2013 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni
My turn.
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I have 4 questions for you:
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1. Assume the OP prophecies come true--abundantly and obviously true. Would such an eventuality alter your perceptions of reality in the least? Why/ why not?
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2. Assume that the rest of the Biblical prophecies about the END TIMES . . . e. g. the Mark of the Beast; overt demanded worship of satan etc. come true and you live to see it . . . would that alter your perceptions of reality in the least? Why/ why not?
3. Assuming both 1 & 2 above . . . would any such eventualities alter your BEHAVIORS in the least?
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4. Would you still reject the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Son and Holy Spirit?
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1. Well they will eventually come true. They are not "prophecies" they are unavoidable events. Yes the new madrid fault will spring into action some day. Could be tomorrow, could be in a thousand years. Or in a hundred years. It happened in what... 1800s? (im not a geologist or a seismologist) Was it because anyone had betrayed israel? No. Pressure, fault lines, subduction stuff etc etc that I know absolutely nothing about but that are uncontested scientific facts. If you can interpret those as divine signs? Sure... but you can interpret anything as a divine sign - wake up in the morning, kick the cat, then bump your head into the kitchen drawer as you get up after feeding the cat - there - God punished you for kicking the cat and feeding it didnt do enough for you to repent. Or... you were just sloppy because you were sleepy and grumpy and forgot the drawer was open... So... the answer is no. It will not alter my perception of "reality". If israel was bombed and one weak later the new madrid fault ripped a new one in the states it would just be an already expected natural disaster, altho of course catastrophic.
2. It wont. There will be no "mark of the beast" unless we make it so. If any prophecies come true it is because we made them come true, not because of some divine intervention. If the sun delivers the so called "kill shot", theres no divine intervention, its not even mentioned in the "end times prophecies" although you'll interpret it as prophesied somewhere, somehow. You'll find a way to say it was already written and we were already warned.
3. No. I do not behave according to some devil or to some god. One: if there are gods, I always thought there should be many of them, I have trouble dealing with the idea of a single god. A divine dictatorial regime lead by one single figure with power over everything else. So I'm more inclined into the polytheistic side of things. Even then I'm not really a religious person, although I do respect religion for its core values and when its taken with moderation and with consideration realizing the separation of the spiritual world and the real world. I do respect these "moderate" religious people and I often agree to them in many subjects for our views, concerns, values and intentions are the same, although through different channels. So, no. My behaviours do not change.
4. I believe in the human spirit. I believe in Man. In what we can achieve when we set our minds to it. Sometimes its like we can achieve almost a collective conscience, like a hive-mind. We can actually communicate and do wonderful things as a species. I believe in our strength, in our ingenuity, our adaptability, our passion, our desire for greatness. Our ambitions to be wiser, better, kinder each day that passes. There are good humans and there are bad humans. Like there are bad dogs and good dogs, or good elephants and bad elephants. We are a part of a planet made of roughly 9 million species. There is no devil nor god commanding any of these species. We control ourselves and our actions. There are members worth of belonging to our species, others that misrepresent us and unfortunately those shouldnt have a place amongst us - they push the rest of us down to a primitive level we should have left long time ago. I am a humanist. Dont ask me about god or the devil, demons or angels. Ask me about Man. You know... when you get sick, you go to the doctor... praying will you killed.