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Dr. Marlene Winell is a human development consultant in the San Francisco Area. She is also the daughter of Pentecostal missionaries. This combination has given her work an unusual focus. For the past twenty years she has counseled men and women in recovery from various forms of fundamentalist religion including the Assemblies of God denomination in which she was raised. Winell is the author of Leaving the Fold - A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving their Religion, written during her years of private practice in psychology.
Over the years, Winell has provided assistance to clients whose religious experiences were even more damaging than [the article's author - see the article to read about her struggle with bulimia and faith]. Some of them are people whose psychological symptoms weren’t just exacerbated by their religion, but actually caused by it.
What exactly is religious trauma syndrome?
Winell: Religious trauma syndrome (RTS) is a set of symptoms and characteristics that tend to go together and which are related to harmful experiences with religion. They are the result of two things: immersion in a controlling religion and the secondary impact of leaving a religious group.
As Journalist Janet Heimlich has documented in, Breaking Their Will; Shedding Light on Religious Child Maltreatment, Bible-based religious groups that emphasize patriarchal authority in family structure and use harsh parenting methods can be destructive.
...RTS is a specific set of symptoms and characteristics that are connected with harmful religious experience, not just any trauma. This is crucial to understanding the condition and any kind of self-help or treatment. (More details about this can be found on my Journey Free; Resources for recovery from harmful religion website and discussed in my talk at the Texas Freethought Convention.)
What do you see as the difference between religion that causes trauma and religion that doesn’t?
Winell: Religion causes trauma when it is highly controlling and prevents people from thinking for themselves and trusting their own feelings. Groups that demand obedience and conformity produce fear, not love and growth. With constant judgment of self and others, people become alienated from themselves, each other, and the world. Religion in its worst forms causes separation.
Saying that someone is trying to pathologize authoritarian religion is like saying someone pathologized eating disorders by naming them. Before that, they were healthy? No, before that we weren’t noticing.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by butcherguy
NOPE! You didn't read the article, did you? Figures. In fact, I doubt you even read past the headline!
It has nothing to do with gun control, nor does it treat "all religions". :shk:
Read it and try again.edit on 27-3-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
So what makes you a non athiest by the way?
Aren’t these just people who would be depressed, anxious, or obsessive anyways?
Winell: Not at all. If my observation is correct, these are people who are intense and involved and caring. They hang on to the religion longer than those who simply “walk away” because they try to make it work even when they have doubts. Sometime this is out of fear, but often it is out of devotion. These are people for whom ethics, integrity and compassion matter a great deal. I find that when they get better and rebuild their lives, they are wonderfully creative and energetic about new things.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by butcherguy
The facts are the facts. I fully expected this sort of reaction.
I posted this article because at least some people might be helped by it. You want to call them "flies"? Oh, the irony.edit on 27-3-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
Meh. I know full well what the rules of engagement on ATS are - and wanted to preempt posts that will accuse me of being gay, demon-possessed, evil, and other things. It happens every time. Why did you choose to be the first to do so?
Oh no. Here is the way for the govt to say that anyone that has ever attended a church may have a mental illness and can not be trusted with a firearm,
What is your POINT?
The reason religion exists is to help people make sense of events which would otherwise be incomprehensible by relying on unseen, hidden forces.
According to Sigmund Freud, religion is a mass neurosis and exists as a response to deep emotional conflicts and weaknesses. A by-product of psychological distress, Freud argued that it should be possible to eliminate the illusions of religion by alleviating that distress. This approach is laudable for getting us to recognize that there can be hidden psychological motives behind religion and religious beliefs…
Strong spiritual values were positively associated with increased rates of current depressive disorder and decreased rates of current alcohol use disorder. Using "atheist" as the reference category, Catholics had higher lifetime odds of single episodes of depression whilst Protestants had higher lifetime odds of anxiety disorder and lower lifetime odds of alcohol use disorders.
Well, the one that I made about how this term (RTS) is accepted by mental health professionals at large....
You could help with that maybe?
Lecture 1 Lecture I RELIGION AND NEUROLOGY
Lecture 2 Lecture II CIRCUMSCRIPTION OF THE TOPIC
Lecture 3 Lecture III THE REALITY OF THE UNSEEN
Lecture 4 Lectures IV and V THE RELIGION OF HEALTHY MINDEDNESS
Lecture 6 Lectures VI and VII THE SICK SOUL
Lecture 8 Lecture VIII THE DIVIDED SELF, AND THE PROCESS OF ITS UNIFICATION
Lecture 9 Lecture IX CONVERSION
Lecture 10 Lecture X CONVERSION--Concluded
Lecture 11 Lectures XI, XII, and XIII SAINTLINESS
Lecture 14 Lectures XIV and XV THE VALUE OF SAINTLINESS
Lecture 16 Lectures XVI and XVII MYSTICISM
Lecture 18 Lecture XVIII PHILOSOPHY
Lecture 19 Lecture XIX OTHER CHARACTERISTICS
Lecture 20 Lecture XX CONCLUSIONS