UFO/Antigrav Tech: ETs need not apply

Xiomicron,

Thank you very much. I would agree, the operational deployment of such X Craft, especially if "dressed up" to resemble "traditional" UFOs could be a useful public distraction device. Indeed, such an event, staging an "alien invasion" could be useful for providing a legitimate excuse to trigger the FEMA protocols.

manforty,

Thank you for the very detailed information. I would say that this, combined with what I have posted, as well as numerous other sources available provides overwhelming evidence that we already have sufficient technology to accomplish what has long been reported as UFO technology.

Now, if that is indeed true (and it certainly appears that way), the question comes up, why does the gov allow the alien theories to propogate? What purpose does it serve the gov?

That name rings a bell. I did a stint with a team called Townsend, but I doubt it was the same. As I did some diving for them, but I wouldn't exspect that to be a common name anyways.

Proof that UFO technology has been human built for at least 50 years....

Since 1950 there were many claims about alleged German developments of revolutionary saucer-shaped crafts able to fly with incredible performances, from a sort of "supersonic helicopter" to hard-to-believe interstellar spaceships.

These crafts were believed the same "flying saucers" (later named UFOs) sighted by many people all around the world since 1947. According to the many would-be "inventors" and enthusiasts of this theory, UFOs would not be of extraterrestrial origin but man-made.

The reality of the "Nazi UFOs" has been highly controversial. No really hard historical evidence about the undisputable existence of such advanced technology has been presented so far.

There are some clues and many fascinating rumours that have been creating a real myth about the so-called "Nazi UFOs". One of the main scopes of this site is just the collection and deployment of documents able to evaluate the whole story better and under a critical point of view.

www.naziufos.com...

It all began with what was probably one of the most devastating immigrations to America. A German by the name of Johannes Rockefeller arrived in America early in her history and gave rise to a family line that would later finance the Nazi revolution in Germany, even to the degree of merging their Standard Oil Company with the Nazi owned and operated I. G. Farben chemical company, which provided Zyklon-B cyanide gas for the German death camps during world war II. Following the war, there is more than enough evidence to conclude that these American corporate fascists secreted literally thousands of hard-core Nazi's into the USA, shuffling them into the various levels of the military-industrial-intelligence fraternity which the Rockefellers essentially owned and operated, while at the same time sponsoring U.S. "presidents" who would faithfully remove power from Congress [via vetos, executive orders, the appointing rather than electing of executive branch personnel, and the creation of several secret agencies which operated under security classifications that even the most powerful Congressional overseers were forbidden from acquiring].

Our moon program was basically founded on the research of ONE Nazi "rocket" scientist by the name of Werner Von Braun, however many do not realize that not only rocket propulsion but also antigravity propulsion was an integral part of the Nazi space projects. Could the Nazi's have reached the moon prior to the USA? There are even reports of Nazi 'space' bases on the moon... and also of massive Nazi bases under the mountains of Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica...

www.angelfire.com...

Being that i am set here to disprove alien techs, a hungarian team tried to enter there anitgravity propulsion system into the X Prise.
Company Name: GRAVity Control Systems

I am not familiar with this particular company, if you have any links, they would be appreciated.

Although Im not sure of the specific system this company you mention uses, there have been a good deal of public research into electromotive drives, with some very interesting and convincing evidence as to the effectiveness of this technology. It is interesting to note that in most cases, scientists tend to negate this research by calling it "ion wind" or something, although hard evidence suggests operation along the same principals established by Nikola Tesla, and later refined by T. Townsend Brown.

Mysterious circles and patterns which appear periodically on the wheat fields of Great Britain and other European countries are probably not the signs of aliens, but cunning provocations of some found closer to home, who use some sophisticated technology to create them. This is the opinion of Pavel Poluyan, our researcher in Krasnoyarsk. His latest article ?The Mystery of the Sacral Half Moon� provoked great interest among the readers. Today, Pavel Poluyan tells our correspondent Irina Petrenko about his theory.

Poluyan: Since ancient times, mysterious circles have appeared on the fields; no different from what can be found in a Russian fairy-tale: �Someone started to walk in the field and move the wheat�. This event is the consequence of a little known natural process connected with the level of atmospheric electricity v something like voiceless lightning, spark-over of a condenser, where one of the plates is the flat surface of the field, filled with thin spikes. The process of the event is quite simple: if the soil in the form of a circle or some pattern is suddenly heated up to 100 degrees centigrade, the liquid in the root stems begin to boil, vessels of the plants burst, the heated air rises and the cold air at the same time comes from the side v the result is that the wheat appears to be flatten in the soil.

But your speculations are too unbelievable to be believed-
Poluyan: At first, it is not necessary that everyone has to believe in it for a long time. For fluctuations in the exchange rate for two or three days of ?the world sensation� will be enough. The rate of shares of all high technology companies will drop v if there is more developed space civilization, why to worry? Second, the impressive show can be organized. Some disk-like devices (?UFO�), for example, can fly. Many specialists know that disk-like flying devices really exist v they fly without any gravitation, using unusual aerodynamic effects. We have, for example, a flying vessel ?EKIP� of Saratovski Avia Concern. In the newspapers it was told that Moscow government was going to buy several such vessels to use them within the city for transportation purposes. Thus the fairy-tale about aliens can be inspired with the trustful public very easily.

And finally, I suspect that this has a global intent: creating a lasting effect of aliens being present, and from their name thrusting one-s will on people. The matter is that many images on the fields look like illustrations reflecting ideas from physics. I mean non-commutative geometries, fractals, and the so-called quaternion versions of non-classic physics. In the other words, it will be possible to create an impression that alien-s mind gives us new scientific technology. Then, not only will the public, but also scientific experts believe in aliens.

english.pravda.ru...

Very interresting read I must say. You've really put a lot of effort into this DR. Good. We need some critical voices as to what is happening here. Something is out there or up there. I sooo much would like to take a ride in one of those crafts outside my dreams too

BTW Boeing is currently researching some anti-gravity invention of some Russian genious. He claimed he had been able to having measured reduced gravity with something like 1% or something. Combined with the Aussie scramjet research one could reduce airpollution and at the same time reduce travel time drastically on intercontinental flights. I do I do believe in anti gravity drives. In a dream I had about UFOs some time back one of the pilots even tried to explain how they worked, but I still don't understand much.....

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Originally posted by dragonrider
After a good deal of research, I have been of the train of thought that many of the UFO sightings are not actually UFOs, but are human built X Craft. These X Craft utilize an advanced antigravity type of propulsion, usually termed Magneto-hydrodynamic and/or electrogravitic propulsion.

Some believe that this technology was obtained from reverse engineering alien technology from retrieved crashed UFOs.

I do not agree with this point of view, and believe that this technology was the brainchild of Nikola Tesla, and originated around the 1880s, and only in the past 40 years has been developed into usable technology.

The following excerpts come from the book "The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla" by Tim Swartz.

At high voltage and frequency, electricity flows over a surfac, even human skin, rather than into it. This is a base circuit which could be used by aircraft/spacecraft.

The hull is best made double, of thin, machinable, slightly flexible ceramic. This becomes a good electrical insulator, has no fire hazard, and has the hardness and strength of armor, besides being transparent to magnetic fields.

The inner hull is covered on its outsides by wedge shaped thin metal sheets of copper or aluminum, bonded to the ceramic. Each sheet is three to four feet wide at the horizontal rim of the hull and tapers to a few inches wide at the top of the hull for the top set of sheets, or at the bottom for the bottom set of sheets. Each sheet it separated on either side from the next sheet by a couple inches of uncovered ceramic hull.

The top set of sheets and the bottom set of sheets are separated by about 6 inches of uncovered ceramic hull around the horizontal rim of the hull. The outer hull protects these sheets from being short circuited by rain or other contaminants.

In space, the outer hull with a slight negative charge would absorb hits from micro meteorites and cosmic rays. If any object doesnt already have a negative charge, it would obtain one on impact with the outer hull, and be repelled by the positively charged inner metal sheets before it could penetrate the inner hull.

The hull can be made in a variety of shapes: sphere, football, disc, streamlined, or triangle, as long as the metal sheets are of considerable area and arranged along the enveloping surfaces of very large radii of curvature.

Electricity is fed into a number of capacitors, one for each metal sheet. An automatic switch closes and the electricity is raised in frequency by a transformer. The electricity comes out of the transformer at the high voltage end and goes by wire through the ceramic hull to the wide end of the metal sheet. The electricity arcs out on and flows over the metal sheet, giving off a very strong magnetic field, controlled by the transformer. At the narrow end of the metal sheet, most of the high voltage push having been given off, the electricity goes back by wire through the hull to a circuit breaker.

In bright sunlight, the aircraft/spacecraft may seem surrounded by hot air, a slight magnetic distortion of the light. In darkness the metal sheets glow, even through the thin ceramic outer hull, with different colors. The visible light is a by product of the electricity flowing over the metal sheets according to the frequencies used.

Timing is important in the operation of the machine. For every three metal sheets, when the middle one is briefly turned off, the sheet on either side is energized, giving off the magnetic field. The next instant, the middle sheet is energized while the sheet on either side is turned off briefly, to allow the capacitors to recharge.

There is a time delay in the capacitors recharging themselves, so that at any given time half of all the metal sheets are active and half are charging, alternating around the hull. This balances the machine, giving it very good stability. This balance is less when fewer of the circuits are in use.

Let's look at some fact based theory for a second. We all know that two magnetic fields with the same polarization always repel(this it why two magnets with aligned north to north or south to south push apart.) This priciple is also used in Maglev Trains. now the earth has a magnetic feild of its own( that's why a compass works). Now what if we could use the earth's magnetic feild to produce the same effect as a Maglev Train on it's track? might that not produse a similar resualt?

Tim

Let's look at some fact based theory for a second. We all know that two magnetic fields with the same polarization always repel(this it why two magnets with aligned north to north or south to south push apart.) This priciple is also used in Maglev Trains. now the earth has a magnetic feild of its own( that's why a compass works). Now what if we could use the earth's magnetic feild to produce the same effect as a Maglev Train on it's track? might that not produse a similar resualt? Posted by Ghost

Actually no.

The opposing magnetic fields actually cancel each other out, as they are applied to the same object. However, in doing so, they create a wave front action with the local gravity field, and in essence create anti-gravity.

This is some information on the Brown-Biefield effect, which has proven this action.

While researching the effects of X-rays generated from a Coolidge tube, American physicist, T. Townsend Brown found a relationship between gravity and high voltage.

When the poles of a freely suspended charged capacitor were placed on a horizontal axis, a forward thrust would be produced which would move the capacitor in the direction of the positive pole. The direction of thrust would reverse in conjunction with a polarity change. This is the phenomenon known as the Biefield-Brown Effect.

The Biefield-Brown Effect could be used to control the direction of flight by distorting the gravitational field through the use of a very high electrical charge "shaped" by the surface of the structure from which it was emitted. The humped disc shape was determined to be one of the most efficient.

Formal scientists tend to dismiss such phenomena as being due to the "electrical wind" (ion) effect, yet Brown thoroughly disproved this by flying the discs in a vacuum. Results of this airless test were deemed astonishing.

www.skiesare.demon.co.uk...

Beginning in the mid 1920's, Townsend Brown specially built a capacitors which utilized a heavy, high charge-accumulating (high K-factor) dielectric material between its plates and found that when charges with between 70,000 to 300,000 volts, it would move in the direction of its positive pole. When oriented with its positive side up, it would proceed to lose about 1 percent of it's weight.

Brown attributed this motion to an electrostatically-induced gravity field acting between the capacitor's oppositely charged plates. By 1958, he had succeeded in developing a 15 inch diameter model saucer that could lift over 110% of its weight

www.rognerud.com...

Brown observed the following factors in his moving, charged condensers:

Regarding the separation of the plates of the condenser: the closer the plates, the greater the effect.
[Regarding] the ability of the material between the plates to store electrical energy in the form of elastic stress: A measure of this ability is called the "K" of the material. The higher the "K", the greater the Biefield-Brown effect.
[Regarding] the area of the plates: the greater area giving the greater effect.
[Regarding] the voltage difference between the plates: more voltage, more effect.
[Regarding] the mass of the material between the plates: the greater the mass, the greater the effect.
We observed that with vertical poles, a separation, or division of the fields can be affected with a "caduceus" coil winding. This creates one field pulling up and the other field pushing down.

For every known electromagnetic effect there is an analogous electrogravitational effect, but electrogravitational causes and effects differ from those of electromagnetic. The fields around a saucer can reach an intensity where they will bend light around them, and they will appear to disappear. Radar bounce off the body can also been screened off by the field at given frequencies, and it will disappear on the radar scope.

www.integratron.com...

Very interesting DR. Thanx for all of that

this is an incredible thread, keep it coming

I don't understand how the craft moves itself in a direction can you explain that in as much detail as you explained how the craft lifts itselfText Black

Tim Swartz has a new UFO-Tesla podcast interview!!

theparanormalview.podomatic.com...