(URGENT) N. Korea threatens preemptive nuclear strike against aggressors

Originally posted by Tattiio
What a joke, 14 new interceptors. Russia has 8500 nukes, we need have more interceptors than they have nukes. It is plain stupid to not be building as many of the interceptor bases as possible. They will also be the first target in a war. Guam will be wiped out completely, possibly Hawii an Alaska as well.

Russia has around 2000 nukes not 8500. You need to quote factural information please.

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Originally posted by pheonix358
Russia has around 2000 nukes not 8500. You need to quote factural information please.

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Wrong, as of latest figures I have found, they have 2000 tactical nukes, plus around 2500 strategic nukes. That makes about 4500 fully functional nukes ready to go boom. Plus several thousand awaiting disassembly. If you include those, then the number is somewhere around 8000+

www.armscontrol.org...

And the actual strategic nuke number is not really known because the START treaty does not have any reporting requirements for strategic weapons. So they could have 50,000 1MT strategic nukes hidden away and still not break the START treaty.

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You are plucking that figure from no-where based on one source and that source does not even know. Several thousand waiting to be dismantled are not weapons in the sense they can not be used.

8500 sounds impressive until you look at cold hard facts.

Try finding other sources! You will get much better figures.

Relying on a single source with an axe to grind is not very good.

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Originally posted by pheonix358
You are plucking that figure from no-where based on one source and that source does not even know.

Well duh……. That is kind of obvious!

The reason people are estimating, and guessing, is because they have never declared how may they have, or where they have them.

It is kind of impossible to quote exact figures when those figures don’t exist because the Russians have never told anyone. The most reliable sources have said that the number of operational tactical nukes is probably close to 2000. So that is what I am going with. That is all anyone can go with.

bos.sagepub.com...

We estimate that Russia currently
has approximately 2,000 nonstrategic
nuclear warheads assigned for delivery
by air, navy, and air-defense forces.
Russia has stated that it has reduced its
number of nonstrategic nuclear warheads
by 75 percent since 1991 and that
all are in central storage

Define “central storage”??
How close is that “central storage” to deployment points?

As I said, they could have 50,000 1MT tactical nukes right now, and there is no law on the books requiring them to tell a single person.

But saying they have zero tactical nukes right now, is about as absurd as trying to say they have 50,000.

too see how has what of nukes here is the current total number of world nukes www.ploughshares.org... from the link

The exact number of nuclear weapons in global arsenals is not known. With little exception, each of the nine countries with nuclear weapons guards these numbers as closely held national secrets. What is known, however, is that more than a decade and a half after the Cold War ended, the world's combined stockpile of nuclear warheads remain at unacceptably high levels.

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Hans Kristensen and Robert Norris of the Federation of American Scientists are the leading experts in estimating the size of global nuclear weapons inventories. The table is a compilation of their estimates and analyses, with links to their full reports. These reports are published in The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists and discussed further at the FAS Strategic Security Blog.

As the authors of these estimates note, the above numbers may not add up due to rounding and uncertainty about the operational statuses and size of the total inventories. For a full analysis of how the authors arrived at their estimates, please view the provided links for the complete reports.

These huge stockpiles come at great financial cost to the countries that keep nuclear weapons. Even in the U.S., these costs area difficult to determine but, through careful analysis, Ploughshares Fund has released our best estimate of just how much nuclear weapons will cost the U.S. over the next ten years.

Updated March 4, 2013.

go to link to see whom has what: Russia has 8,500,US 7,700 China 240 ; not listed DPRK thought to have 20 max yeild10 to 20 Kt my own numbers on theory 1000 up to 50 to 100 kt