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The Summoning of Russia and Iran to Israel - Ezekiel 35-39

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posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 01:48 AM
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This article interrupts Ezekiel as Turkey also helping Russia and Iran to begin WW3 with Israel

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posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 04:36 AM
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No. Just..no.

Russia is not mentioned in Ezekiel. No serious Bible scholar thinks this. Hal Lindsey is a joke.

Gog and Magog attack Isreal, which is referred to as "a land without bars or gates." Have you seen Israel lately?

This army attacks Israel with horses, chariots, bows, swords and shields. No mention of flying things, fiery things...you know, the aircraft and artilllery that a modern army would use?

Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia and Libya (which are the nations being referred to here) are not going to get together and do a land invasion of a nuclear-armed state that also has American helicopters and jets.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 05:59 AM
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So many mistakes, i dont know where to begin.
There is but 1 verse that talks about this present 'israel', Ez 36: " edom [tptb] says Finally those ancient mountains [ the slab of land called now israel] is mine ! "
and this happened 1947.

You are deluding people.
Yes enoch was right - but YOU Sir are not.

edom/esau is not 'arabs'. That is Ishmael.
Edom/esau is the *brother* of jacob.
looking like him, talking like him - but ISNT him.

Ezekiel was adressing the House of Israel - that is, the nORTHERN kINGDOM,
which is 'male' , masculine.

...but edom/esau has lead people to believe, that 'israel' is equal with this present slab of land,
and uses scripture to sustain its hoax,
using people like You Sir.

Either you are a shill - or indeed Ignorant and completely been brainwashed and indoctrinated.

Leading souls astray is hightreason.
Hence my anger.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 06:11 AM
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thank you.

What edom/esau does here,
is "translate" prophecy into a current situation,
- a situation, she HERSELF created
[ since satan is STILL the ruler of this world ] .

why would he do that?
it are Okkult Rituals,
ment to Annull the réal meaning of the prophecies.
as in 'deflecting'

remember the gulf oil spill , or the tschernobyl,
these were literal caused events, to "Undo " the real meaning of scripture.

when 'wormwood' is ' falling ' and ' causing bitterness ' [ radiation] ,
and satan [ with his henchmen esau/edom] can divert this into a LIteral event,
that annulls the spiritual event,
as ment by the prophecy,
for the fallen angel 'wormwood' to fall on earth.

Likewise,
this 'israel' [ the slab of land ] is a false fullfillment of real Prophecy,
because ' the north ' is hereby being playedout as ' russia '

so that the réal meaning of ' the north '
[ that is: the Ursa Major constellation, the egypt pantheons seat ]
will try get out under the prophecies about her,
because it has been played out in realtime, downhere.


..im sorry if its not too clear how i phrase, i struggled trying to describe the point

bless



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 06:26 AM
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all ATS knows very well,
that the pyramids have imprinted Evils rule ' into the stars'
by the very construction of the pyramids.

And the egyptian pantheons main constellation was the Polestars - in casu, Ursa major,
to aim for " continuous rule over earth ".

but in 1947,
that SAME pantheon created ' present israel',
which has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with God.
...but is totally and utterly the egyptian pantheons child.

Its so in one s face ! the egyptian remphan hexagram on the flag,
the 'yahwah' what is yah the egyptian moongod
the 'yahshuah' = that moongod + the egyptian Shu lion messiah
..the 'lion' in Rev 5 is NOT the Lord...but the egyptian sphinx lion
etc etc

why, you think, He is SO angry on this all?
and lo and behold:
millions upon millions of believers are tricked in this false scheme
Led by people as ' enoch was right '
giving their energy to satan directly
by believing his tricks

This is about War,
and these, and their followers, serve Evil, without realizing it
and by their believing the Lie,
paving the way for antichrist who comes to imprison THEM



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 06:43 AM
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- i will tell you another secret:

this whole 'syria war ' is nothing but another Ritual

..in the 50s, edom made an ally to be very good friends with ' israel',
vowing that he would support this ' israel'.
Later, he was , on purpose, displaced, and an " enemy ruler " was put into place there
[ compare iraq]

why?
what is in ' syria '?

- the Sceptre to Eden !

read scripture !
the sceptre to Eden is in Damascus !

imprisoned there by Evil - since the Fall.

and what does Evil?
he wants 'believers' to wait and pray for " the fall of damascus "
using isaiah in a wrong context -

why?
because believers will PRAY AGAINST THEIR OWN CHANCE TO THE NEW EDEN

imprisoning themselves

by praying against syria
wanting damascus fall
and imprisoning their OWN Attribute: the gate to [ the new] eden



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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please tell me,
anyone of you,
do i make sense ?

...since you re on a site like this,
you knów that this world is not as it is presented [ by msm ]

there s a war going on
and it is not about the created literal events

But they are created,
to disguise realtime SPIRITUAL truths

im so tired
im sorry

so many falling for esaus lies



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 07:03 AM
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with my last breathe i will fight hyenas like 'enoch was right'

hyenas circeling around a dying soul

because they have so much Self left
so much Ego
and own power
fueled by satan himself

see-
Spells and Sorcery work *only* onto an Ego
onto a person whose Ego is very much alive still.

..this is why He desires that a persons Ego - flesh - is dead
crucified
mind you: He does NOT want that soul to die: but the ego

the Ego, what presents a livable worldvieuw to the soul
- yet false
because it is Evil itself what gives the soul Its worldvieuw

therefore,
satans/esaus Lies
are working onto the Ego of believers
telling and showing her Lies
to keep the Ego alive
...while she should DIE.

satan piggybacks
having the Legal Right to continue his misschief
by clinging to believers who have false ideas.

- Period.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 07:21 AM
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to You dear ATS ers
- final post about this topic, i promise -

look please,
you CAN make a difference.

But it is not about ' doing things or opposing the System '.

but
by simply REFUSE to believe the Lies.

see -
we live within a spiritual world,
and that world becomes as we believe.

therefore
every single soul can make a difference
and can fight a most honourable war
...by NOT BELIEVING THE LIES.

do not trust *nothing* that is presented to you about this world.
its a LIE.

..but try find the context of it all
as He ment for you to discover.

bless you.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
reply to post by EnochWasRight
 



So many mistakes, i dont know where to begin.
There is but 1 verse that talks about this present 'israel', Ez 36: " edom [tptb] says Finally those ancient mountains [ the slab of land called now israel] is mine ! "
and this happened 1947.

You are deluding people.
Yes enoch was right - but YOU Sir are not.

edom/esau is not 'arabs'. That is Ishmael.
Edom/esau is the *brother* of jacob.
looking like him, talking like him - but ISNT him.

Ezekiel was adressing the House of Israel - that is, the nORTHERN kINGDOM,
which is 'male' , masculine.

...but edom/esau has lead people to believe, that 'israel' is equal with this present slab of land,
and uses scripture to sustain its hoax,
using people like You Sir.

Either you are a shill - or indeed Ignorant and completely been brainwashed and indoctrinated.

Leading souls astray is hightreason.
Hence my anger.



You spent your text up simply saying, "No, it isn't true and you are being dishonest." With these statements, you said more about how you feel about me than you did providing any context to your argument. Show me a video. I will watch it, even if it's an hour long. Provide me links to theologians saying what you are saying. I'll read them. Show me scripture. I already know them. Is it possible Hal Lindsey is wrong on this? Sure it is. This does not imply that I am trying to deceive.

When a person attacks the message by attacking the messenger, he is simply revealing more about himself than the one he attacks. Leave me out of it and show what you know with supporting context if you want to be taken seriously by me or anyone else.

Bias is not a foundation.

With that said, of course there is validity to some of the points you make. First, you need to show what you perceive my view to be. Then, simply show supporting evidence to the contrary. It seems you may have misread or ignored the OP before you replied. Study it further, outline the points you do not agree with, then provide your own foundation. Again, attacking the object and not the subject is a weak platform. It keeps me on the higher ground. A good book to read is Verbal Judo by George Thompson. I recommend it. Bias kills your argument.

Here is what George says about communication:

Think for the other person in the manner in which they should be thinking for themselves. Avoid bias, condescension and anger. Speak to the subject and not the object delivering it. Resorting to bias allows your opponent to retain the higher ground. Why? Your foundation should be truth and not anger and hatred.

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posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:18 AM
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- i do not have ' videos' or ' theologians' for you, as "proof".
They all but parott the same.
I want you you to THINK, love.

Nietsche said already
"most people reflect onto what they read -
but everyone forgot the art of Thinking Independantly "

dont follow esaus prepared vieuw on the world
sustaining it with out of context scripture

but be brave
understand God, and His desire
...that is what He asks from you.

bless



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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what God wants,
is to surround every single soul with light and love

having that soul faint of pleasant surprise every second

But what EdomEsau is doing here,
is to "translate" that promise,
into a non-event of false fulfillment of this prophecy,
by creating a false SlabOfLandCalledIsrael

to ANULL His desire.

What is, i ask you, so difficult to understand that Trap ?

and WHY YOU Sir are promoting that Trap,
instead of His desire ?



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:31 AM
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- theres only 1 possible answer here:

you do not know God.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:42 AM
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.....i would be so, so lyrical
about his love

...giving the soul so, so much Honour
that the only thing, the soul can do, and wants to do,
is give all that Honour back to Him

nothing more sweet

nothing more desirable


- yet YOU come with this fake prophecy fullfillment
about a satan devised 'nation' called ' israel '
and worse: you DEFEND it


horrible

you defend satans mimick

you Sir do not even have a CLUE who is 'israel '

israel is those who are His '
- NOT " a slab of land "
filled with ukrains



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 08:51 AM
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i am
ashamed of my life

all i know
is that my soul wants to be clean

and all i know,
is that all of this world is a Trap

all i want is to have rest
for my own soul
and for all the other souls who are tired


and i will NOT - you hear me ? - i WILL NOT
lead me astray by false teachers as you, Sir.

who block the rapture
telling Lies

telling that this current # of land
is His promise

i tell you:
not in a MILLION years, this lands people will ' convert'
they CANNOT.
they are Esau.

this whole israel hoax is MENT to block rapture.

by giving false promises,
supported by out-of-context-scripture
untill Antichrist will have Rule.

Sir,
obviously you fail to grasp the responsability you have.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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i tell you -

that, in the end, the helpless soul will stand before Him,
having *no* thing to say whatsoever,
standing on a trapdoor, with the flames of magma burning beneath her

and it will be only - only - His choice,
whether that soul lives, or will perish.

i have seen.
i have expirienced.

this is why i refuse to believe evils Lies
refuse to believe evils Traps like this 'israel;'
because it hurts Him

it hurts Him

do You understand.

..He is HURT that so many fall for that Lie

exchanging His desire, for a slab of land



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
- theres only 1 possible answer here:

you do not know God.


None of us do. You are trying to rise above me in pride and that's fine. We are equal. Keep this in mind. Why? We do not yet know God.

Luke 10:22, "All things are delivered (revealed) to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the son, and he to whom the son will reveal him."



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by Lone12
- theres only 1 possible answer here:

you do not know God.


None of us do. You are trying to rise above me in pride and that's fine. We are equal. Keep this in mind. Why? We do not yet know God.

Luke 10:22, "All things are delivered (revealed) to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the son, and he to whom the son will reveal him."



Nonsense.

If you knew the heart of God,
you wouldnt write such sh** as you did.



posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 09:16 AM
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You are suffering the same fear we all wrestle with. The Earth is a hall of mirrors and faith requires that truth always has a reflection and shadow. For faith to be preserved, no fact can be found. Evidence, on the other hand, can be found. Faith also implies our faithfulness. It also implies God's faithfulness to us. Faith implies trust. Trust leads to assurance. Neither of us knows God yet and we will by the end. Keep looking up and relax. Give the fear to God.

At times, I have felt the same way. When I cry out, God answers.

"There's no more brilliant light than that which follows complete darkness."

There's a good movie called The Cafe. This is where I got this quote. The movie is about the illusion of our lives as related to God behind the veil. It's on Netflix.


Originally posted by Lone12
i am
ashamed of my life

all i know
is that my soul wants to be clean

and all i know,
is that all of this world is a Trap

all i want is to have rest
for my own soul
and for all the other souls who are tired


and i will NOT - you hear me ? - i WILL NOT
lead me astray by false teachers as you, Sir.

who block the rapture
telling Lies

telling that this current # of land
is His promise

i tell you:
not in a MILLION years, this lands people will ' convert'
they CANNOT.
they are Esau.

this whole israel hoax is MENT to block rapture.

by giving false promises,
supported by out-of-context-scripture
untill Antichrist will have Rule.

Sir,
obviously you fail to grasp the responsability you have.



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posted on Feb, 26 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
please tell me,
anyone of you,
do i make sense ?



No. I'm sorry, you really make no sense at all. I read your posts three times and they make no sense. Sure, a few lines here and there I understand, but as a whole, they make no sense at all. It's all a bunch of babbling trying to hide the truth from people.





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