Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by catswithbigpaws
I feel that the cost of ObamaCare is something that's not very understood by us all.
Let me stop you here. Because you state that then go on to talk like you know about the bill, while you talk about things you don't understand.
The government isn't going to be paying for most people's healthcare. This is a fallacy that is being perpetuated by republicans non stop. It'
just not true. Most health insurance will still be covered through employers, which has been the case for a while now.
You're using that tool very ignorantly.
Seems to me you are the ignorant one. You are not paying attention to what is happening, workers are being fired, employers are eliminating insurance
coverage or reducing workers to part time, rates are going up even faster than ever. These are all a result of Obamacare.
When people lose jobs, can't get fulltime work, or find an employer to give them insurance, than yes the governments share of healthcare expenditures
will be going up. Will they be paying the majority, maybe not right away but with healthcare going up 10 - 15% a year and gdp increasing at most 2% a
year it is inevitable that yes nearly all will fall on the government within a very few years. Well it actually won't because the government will no
longer be able to borrow a dime, and therefore will be unable to pay for a large portion of it, but that is another discussion.
The idea that companies can continue to absorb 10 - 15% increases every year in health coverage or will when there are alternatives for labor outside
the country is absolute stupidity. I know liberals want to claim healthcare is a right, and the government should provide it, and that's all well
and good in theory. Here is the problem that liberals seem to have an incredibly hard time comprehending - there is no free lunch, money does not
come from thin air, and the government only gets its money from the labor of its citizenry.
Our medical system costs are double the rest of the industrialized world, and our system is guaranteed to collapse. The system has leaches at every
level, the insurance companies, lawyers, hospital chains and other providers, drug companies, state government. Obamacare is adding additional
federal bureaucracy to the system, and getting the IRS involved, to take their cut to make a ridiculously inefficient system, even more
This country is in really, really bad shape, and the main reason is 95% of the population has no clue our way of life is not remotely sustainable. We
are competing against the rest of the world, our education system sucks, our work ethic is eroding, and more and more people feel entitled to
government freebies which are a myth, every freebie makes the country weaker. People, and especially liberals are in for a very rude awakening.