What exactly is multiculturalism?, page 1

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Topic started on 23-2-2013 @ 07:35 PM by HomoSapiensSapiens

What exactly is multiculturalism, especially regarding the UK (or is it the same thing in the US and Europe as in the UK?)? I've never quite understood it?

What's more, do people not understand that multiculturalism does not equal multiracialism? Ergo, being of non-white skin colour, it would not be problematic for me to be anti-multiculturalism now, would it?

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:35 PM by captaintyinknots

Kind of off topic, but I have to ask, what is your obsession with race?

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:38 PM by HomoSapiensSapiens

reply to post by captaintyinknots

What's race got to do with multiculturalism? Or do I not understand it properly?

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:39 PM by Hopechest

Well your basic definition is simply a society with different cultures in it but if you want to go into a deeper meaning you could say its about knowing proper ways to respond to diversity, not only culturally but also on a religious level.

Understanding that certain groups have different values and beliefs and structuring society to accomodate all those would be a better definition.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:39 PM by Dispo

reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens

Multiculturalism is the presence and tolerance of a multitude of cultures in a certain geographical area.

Multiculturalism is not the same thing as multiracialism, but it is strongly correlated.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:40 PM by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by captaintyinknots

What's race got to do with multiculturalism? Or do I not understand it properly?

Youve made multiple threads in a row based on racial and cultural differences. I am just curious why you are so fixated on it.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:43 PM by Q33323

Answer: an exercise which aims to dis-unite a population.

United we stand. Divided we squabble, and fall.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:43 PM by darkbake

My question would be this : Is multiculturalism allowing for different cultures, or is it more about tearing down existing cultures to make a culture vacuum?

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:46 PM by Hopechest

Originally posted by darkbake
My question would be this : Is multiculturalism allowing for different cultures, or is it more about tearing down existing cultures to make a culture vacuum?

Its about allowing for different cultures, recognizing them as equal citizens and practicing tolerance for their beliefs which may be different than the majority of the society.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:49 PM by wingsfan

Multiculturalism is said to be a proponent for diversity, but in reality it's the strive for sameness across the board. IMO it's just another tentacle of the modern communist efforts. But it has proven to be quite a potent brainwashing tool. It instills crippling guilt in some and overly empowers others, and most of all it fuels racism.

If you want real diversity you try to appreciate others differences. Smashing people together and hoping they adhere to some cultural standard is a recipe for disaster. And who set's those standards for multiculturalism?
You'd be surprised to learn those behind this scheme strongly oppose these ideals amongst themselves.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:53 PM by skepticconwatcher

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Multiculturalism is a modern day olive branch of unity extended by the children of the colonists in the wake of a growing realization that they are soon to be and forever will be after that, globally outnumbered by a planet of people who have been victimized by their fore fathers. It's a collective way to say

"Look, let's all just live peacefully together and get over our past issues, shall we? "

I'd embrace it if I were you.

Tick Tock Tick Tock.

2025 Global End Game

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:53 PM by HomoSapiensSapiens

reply to post by captaintyinknots

I do admit that the issue with "race" and whatnot has been a recent thing with me - it began to occur in 2011 and reached a peak in mid-2012 and has still not lessened. I guess I greatly dislike how my skin tone is associated with many negative issues which are at odds with my individual and personal viewpoints and ambitions and whatnot; amongst other things.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:54 PM by snowspirit

Originally posted by Dispo
reply to post by HomoSapiensSapiens

Multiculturalism is the presence and tolerance of a multitude of cultures in a certain geographical area.

Multiculturalism is not the same thing as multiracialism, but it is strongly correlated.

And the reason it isn't the same thing is that there may be different cultures within the same race (skin tone).
Canada has areas that contain many Italians, or Portugese, who aren't exactly "white", but they aren't "dark" either.
But they look similar. Much like Caucasians, features and skin tones vary.

There can be different Asian cultures, such as Japanese, or Chinese, who are both Asian, but completely different cultures.

Etc.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:55 PM by darkbake

Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by darkbake
My question would be this : Is multiculturalism allowing for different cultures, or is it more about tearing down existing cultures to make a culture vacuum?

Its about allowing for different cultures, recognizing them as equal citizens and practicing tolerance for their beliefs which may be different than the majority of the society.

I agree that this should be the official goal of multiculturalism, but in my experience at a liberal arts college, other cultures were either treated with scathing hatred or something to be studied, but not taken seriously, like a zoo animal. The prevailing culture was always liberal atheism.

However, I should say that I strongly believe in multiculturalism in its pure form. That is why we should have different states, different countries, different religions, etc.

I think one of the strongest facets of the United States is the fact that it has 50 different states - and the culture differences between them can be immense. I just moved from Washington (legalized marijuana for recreational use and sale through the state) to its neighbor, Idaho (which is in the process of passing legislation banning the future legalization of marijuana).

The two states are as different as night and day, but there are positives and negatives for both -

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reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:56 PM by Q33323

reply to post by Hopechest

In a perfect world, your description is correct. In America, many multiculturalists' emphasize seperation and seek to control a segment of the population.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:58 PM by billdadobbie

i think they have the answer over at stormfront

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:58 PM by HomoSapiensSapiens

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That is a problem, yes. Especially when African countries are gradually moving away from the modern stereotype of barren dustbowl with little starving children walking aimlessly about and the rise of China and India.

In the coming decades, it can be clearly seen in what direction the world is headed. Slowly (very slowly in some aspects), the shift of global perspective will increasingly move towards Asia and Africa and the former regions of importance (e.g America and Europe etc) lessen in importance and power. No Empire or people or region of importance has ever been everlasting and perennial. Look at Italy today and look at what it once was. Look at Egypt today and look at what it once was. Look at the Congo today and look at what it once was.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 07:59 PM by Hopechest

Originally posted by Q33323
reply to post by Hopechest

In a perfect world, your description is correct. In America, many multiculturalists' emphasize seperation and seek to control a segment of the population.

The OP was only asking what it meant so I gave him the correct definition. Of course it never actually works like this in real life but that is how we define it.

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 08:02 PM by SplitInfinity

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I live in the State of Massachusetts USA and as in just about any place in the U.S. with the possible exception of the Dakotas and various other remote areas of this continent sized country...the average small town USA has a wide variety of people who are all originally from some other place in the world.

Now some people may think having such a diverse population is a weakness...it is NOT. It is a strength as there is no person more Patriotic in nature than a person who once was a citizen of a country that had little to no rights.

In my town we have a very nice Iranian Family that went through HELL to get out of Iran and get to the U.S. where in my town the own a very nice Breakfast/Lunch place were they do a very good business. When 9/11 happened...this Iranian Family had the biggest U.S. Flag in town hanging off the side of their building. They have told me that as they made their way from Iran...through the Middle East...into Europe...and to France...they were shunned as unwanted immigrants as the locals of these countries gave them a very unpleasent experience.

The Father and Mother told me when they finally got to the U.S. they broke out in tears just because U.S. Customs people smiled at them after checking out their VISA's and welcomed them to the U.S. They also said that when they opened their business that the people here welcomed them without precieved conceptions.

Their oldest SON is now a U.S. Marine and has served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has said it was the least he could do for the country that has treated him and his family so well.

THAT is the kind of things and people you get from being Multicultural.

Split Infinity

reply posted on 23-2-2013 @ 08:08 PM by FOXMULDER147

reply to post by SplitInfinity

That's a lovely story...

... but in one or two generations from now that Iranian family will be completely 'Americanized' and their (presumably) Persian culture will be drained from their blood.

Hence why some say multiculturalism is actually cultural death in disguise.

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