Originally posted by Murgatroid
reply to post by adjensen
OK adjensen, I owe you one...
The Le Cercle Rouge comment gave me a good laugh.
I have NOT seen the film myself so I may have to watch it also.
It's a great movie (it's on Hulu
, don't know if you have to be a HuluPlus member or not,) and let me
tell you, Alain Delon sure knows how to wear a mustache, lol.
I am a bit confused about the part: "seem to have pitched it all"
I had nothing to pitch really as I had no beliefs to speak of so help me out with that part.
Oh, I just inferred that you'd started out with a Catholic perspective and then dismissed it intentionally.
My issue with dismissing religion is that, for most people, it's one of the things that sort of keeps them on the right track. Not everyone, of
course, but I would count myself among them. I view spirituality as a three tiered system, in descending
order of importance:
- Personal faith - my relationship with God
- Religion - the community of believers, the scripture and the tradition that bolsters that
- Theology - the underlying philosophy of why it makes sense
So, the most important thing is me, and my relationship, the next is the
part of spirituality that is rooted in this world, and which keeps me grounded, and the last is the logical system that explains why I should respect
the religious aspects.
A person doesn't need all three, but, in my mind, they help to keep most people "out of trouble", because a person who says "I'm spiritual but
not religious" (having just that first piece) can pretty well convince themselves of anything. Want to believe in Zeus? Well, there's no theology to
support that, and essentially no rational religion, but if one dismisses those as irrelevant, then Zeus worship is on the table.
But, with those pieces in place, and functioning, I can know that if, for example, someone was to come to me saying that he'd had a message from God,
saying that we needed to go blow up the abortion clinic, I can reflect on both religion and theology to go back to him saying "okay, that wasn't
God, and here's why."
Like I said, not everyone needs that framework to operate within, but I think most people do.