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According to Enoch, the fallen were locked in chains within the Earth.
There are both wicked and elect present in this place. We have the choice to repent in the water. This is the purpose for baptism (Immersion).
For I know the mysteries of the Holy Ones, for the Lord showed them to me and made them known to me, and I read them in the Tablets of Heaven.
They will then be revealed as they are. One group will fall back to hell. The other will rise to peace and safety.
And further the Lord said to Raphael: "Bind Azazel by his hands and his feet and throw him into the darkness. And split open the desert, which is in Dudael, and throw him there.
And the whole Earth has been ruined by the teaching of the works of Azazel; and against him write: ALL SIN."
The Bible refers the the Sons of the fallen as a cloud of evil
There are mysteries to this that need to be investigated. As our own history draws to a close after these last 6000 years, the answers will be revealed. This much we can be sure of.
Originally posted by MamaJ
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Maybe they are bound to help or influence us until the Last Adam finishes, however why would Jesus have stated, "Its finished" if it weren't finished already?
There is a lot of speculation and dissecting needed, for sure.
Originally posted by Kapablanka
Hm, good read. I thought I'd catch some jewels but I didn't get anything from this. What did you pull from it?
I like the bit about the water bodies, makes sense considering we're mostly water and water is shown to vibrate consistent with what is influencing it. Imagine you could see the water of evil people, they would look hideous, and they're usually hideous in the flesh as well. Here's a jewel, have you considered the two distinct bodies of water on earth, one fresh and the other salty? Can you explain the significance of that? Theres some knowledge there I haven't caught yet.
Satan is always functioning like some bogus ass fool, why would anyone listen to him, he never knew anything, the reason he was kicked out was for his petty logic and foolishness. He didn't deny ignorance, lol, and was ejected for this reason. The goof actually refused to bow down before God's creation, yet he is one of God's creation, how do you confront the being that gave you life about your authority; Wow, he is too much. He was correct that he would lead many people astray, doesn't say much about humans. I think he's so funny because God made him that way, yet, he's too stupid to even realize that, so he represents the absolute unintelligent illogical of all beings yet, he is still a slave to god. Another lol.edit on 22-2-2013 by Kapablanka because: (no reason given)
That is TODAY! I love scripture. It's so exciting to see this happen in our day and age. Dreadful at the same time. We are all sinners that will face judgment.
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.
This reminds me, I need to include the lost books of Adam and Eve in this mix. There are many clues in this account, including a parallel to Enoch's 70 generations of judgment and the Mayan long count years of 5125 years. The book of Adam and Eve tell of 5.5 days until the WORD comes to rescue mankind. We find the exact same story in this account as well. So far, Enoch, Rumi and many others relate the same story.
Are we the fallen ones? Not quite.
It is my belief that one soul inhabits each domain. Like the sun, one soul resides over each system. Around each system is a galaxy. The central core of that galaxy is drawing the rest back to the source. As above, so below. We are mirrors of the macrocosm. The microcosm of this macrocosm is mirrored in our own domain of influence.
why did God love Jacob but hate Esau? We can ask the same of ourselves. Do we love our sin or do we love God? Do we give or do we take. God said, "Jacob (Farmer) have I loved and Esau (Hunter) have I hated. God loves the giver.
"Are we the fallen ones? No quite.
But you stated earlier we are. Which do you believe as I happen to think of us as a descendant into the material form but will rise in the spiritual.
The Qur'an identifies books known as the Tawrat (Torah) given to Musa (Moses), the Zabur (Psalms) given to Daud (David), and the Injil (Gospel) given to Isa (Jesus) as genuine divine revelations brought by true messengers to the Jews and the followers of Ibrāhīm (Abraham). Together with the Qur'an itself, and the now unknown Suhuf Ibrahim ("Scrolls of Abraham"), these make up the kitab, the Islamic holy books. Belief in the divine inspiration of all of these books is one of the fundamental tenets of Islam. However, Islam holds that since all the Books prior to the Quran have been corrupted by human hands, Muslims are only to get their guidance from the Qur'an.