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It hasn't corrupted our society ... oh wait hang on a minute ... never mind ... we are all so scroomed!
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Hell NO you can't have your rights back. You lost them fair and square by willfully committing a violent felony.
I was attacked during Katrina by a guy who had been let out of jail due to overcrowding. He was a 3rd time convicted violent felon. I suppose they thought he was going to straighten up too but nope.. you can never tell what a person id going to do next, especially a person with a criminal history that's so bad, you didn't commit a non violent just had some weed or stole a candy bar crime, you committed a felony. I suppose you have no clue how serious that is or you would not be posting this silly thread. I had to get emergency surgery for an eye whos retina had snapped because of this guy they could trust so much they kept letting out of prison. I was almost blinded for life because I'm legally blind in my other eye since birth.
A convicted felon of a violent crime.. you Suck! If your stupid enough not to stop and think before you commit a violent felon crime, you don't deserve any rights. Personally I wouldn't give you any air to breath either. They should make you wear a I'm a Violent Felon offender badge every where you go.
Originally posted by superman2012
reply to post by onequestion
You want the right to have a gun? Is that really what America needs now? A self confessed violent felon with a gun? You lost control once, you will never be able to convince anyone that there is no situation where you won't lose it again.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
I think that if we "presume" that people serve their time in prison -- they definitely should have all the rights of a citizen, including the right to vote after they "serve their time." However, for violent offenses, those people should be prohibited from purchasing guns -- and likely there should be other restrictions that are based on people with a high chance of recidivism.
Originally posted by 19KTankCommander
violent Crimianl in your own words, Not knowing what you did really don't matter, have to remember one thing if it was not for those liberals and if this was 200 years ago and you got caught you would not be here to talk about it.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Tardacus
Companies that hire felons can also get TJTC ( Targeted jobs tax credits ). I once managed for a company that preferred hiring felons, welfare and SS recipients, and resident aliens - because of the free Federal $$$ that they got for doing so.
Oh, and those groups also never complain about being scheduled part time, low pay, or being on call 24/7 even though they're part time. Another "benefit" to the Corporate system.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Wandering Scribe
But the fact still remains: someone else, who is not the OP, now has to bear the effects of the OP's actions. Just because the OP says he isn't going to hurt anyone, doesn't mean he won't, history proves that he can, has, and just might.
Which is why the state needs a way to prove rehabilitation. So both the victim, and the public at large, know that the OP will most likely not commit anymore crimes.
The fact remains that not ever crime is prosecuted. Therefore, the justice system in its directive, is a failure. A victim can be a predator. Depending on how the system is manipulated.
Originally posted by onequestion
reply to post by loam
Theres not, he had a broken cheek bone but it literally resulted in a black eye and no further medical treatment. As i said before i was registered with california state athletic comissioned as a professional fighter which came out during the case.
Also as i said before i am providing details not to justify anything but only as a catalyst for debate.
Im not trying to say i was innocent.
Originally posted by onequestion
Yes I admit it. I'm a Violent felon. I was convicted of an assault charge in 2009 which happened in 2008. I spent six months in jail and three years on probation without any problems. I was younger dumb and a little out of control. I made a mistake and paid for it dearly. I lost everything on top of everything I just described. My life is not an easy road now and I Have no constitutional rights now. I want to open a discussion about the rights of felons for a few reasons.
The government is no longer limited in its authority over my life. A simple background check or name ran puts my life at risk every time. This is disturbing on many levels. I could essentially be put in jail for anything and because of my record my testimony will not be upheld in court. I know I know... This is my fault. But I'm an American citizen!
I can't own a gun. Well, apparently the constitution only protects those in favor of the courts. If you can't see how this is flawed then I don't know what to tell you. Think in today's judicial prejudice how easy it is to fall out of favor with the courts.
This is pretty much my biggest gripe. How is it that the constitution was written to limit the authority of the government but it doesn't limit the authority of the government for those who commit crimes? The same government who defines the crime.... How is this possible?
If we change any law to create a crime that shouldn't be a crime can we effectively eliminate all gun owners by removing their rights for commiting a crime deemed worthy of the elimination of constitutional rights? Was this document created to apply to everyone within the republic or only those deemed worthy?
Before you respond please keep in mind that I am a pretty good person and I really just want my rights and my life back.edit on 17-2-2013 by onequestion because: (no reason given)edit on 17-2-2013 by onequestion because: (no reason given)edit on 17-2-2013 by onequestion because: (no reason given)
And once again I must ask about your education or school situation.. Someday I may tell my story but as for now I just ask questions!!
Originally posted by mardukiscoming
reply to post by onequestion
I too am a convicted felon.My case is quite different than yours.I never hurt any one.My conviction was for auto theft.Thats what they called it anyway.I went for a joyride in a friends car,he gave me the keys,but I made the mistake of crossing two state lines.This was over twenty years ago but this conviction still haunts me.I was a stupid,immature kid then.Now I am pushing 50.I would like to say it gets easier in time,but I am not going to lie.I too would like to relieve my self of the stain that my actions placed upon my life.But the fact is that I broke the law.We live in a society governed by laws.There is a penalty to pay for breaking those laws.I have long since accepted this.Is it fair that I should carry this burden for the rest of my life? Maybe not,in my case,but if you can find a way to erase the past please let me know.