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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by mahatche
Santigold would be considered hiphop?
Easily one of my favorite newish groups! Love it.
Originally posted by cartesia
This really shows all you up as ignorant judgemental fools.
You say this isnt music because it doesnt take skill to produce. it does. Anyone is welcome to come round to my house, I will sit them in front of a keyboard, synthesiser, sampler, computer. I will even show them how to use the instruments. I will then proceed to wait for them to produce a creative and original song. I'll even be kind when the day is over and theyve got nothing but a steaming pile of dog# in front of them.
People appreciate different kinds of music. Most people are fairly simple. Melody or a good chord progression, throw in a story to keep their short attention span... bang. F G E... that is apparently 'music'
Alot of misunderstood electronic music is about rhythm, timbral dynamic and the psychological effect of meditation/trance-like states. It is repetitive for a REASON and it is repetitive in very certain ways that cause very measurable effects on the mind. Melody is subtle because you need to work slowly to entrance the mind. there are no obvious blaring changes like a pop song.
Things like dubstep are more like punk rock.. theyre about energy and power, something shocking to the ears that causes an adrenaline rush. If you've ever heard it from a big system you can feel the energy.
You think people just throw a bunch of loops together... no. Well.. a select few do, yes. Theyre known as phoneys or sellouts. But behind them (whether given credit or not) someone created that content. and most of course do not use loops unless theyre a 12 year old with an iphone who thinks theyre a DJ.
Thats another thing. A DJ is a DJ. Some DJs are producers, some producers are DJs. They are 2 separate things though. Insulting a DJ because he doesn't play an instrument is a bit like insulting a conductor. The reason we usually see a DJ rather than a live performance is because often the things happening in the music are impossible to be performed in realtime. This is one of the benefits of playing premade music.. things can happen that are physically imposssible in realtime.
Now for this idea of instruments...
Can you tune a guitar? Imagine tuning a guitar with 40 knobs that do different things PER string.
Great, so you can pluck patterns in 6 strings, and push your finger on the right spot on the neck? Maybe even 12 strings? Now imagine a piano where you can squeeze the keys to alter the sound as it plays, and instead of 3 pedals it has 20.. easy right? Absolutely no potential for creating art either, of course, because it's based on the flow of electrons rather than the vibration of atoms.
Originally posted by n3mesis
Dubstep and the whole electronic genre can be produced by one person with a computer and a few programs and while some stuff is catchy it's no where near what i'd call an art form.. as for "what happened to music" it's kinda more about your genre of choice.. my choice is safe.. i listen to punk, hardcore.. etc.. and while i admit there's crapy bands in all genres, the majority of bands i love are very passionate and most importantly.. broke! haha so you know they aren't in it for cash and fame. anyway.. it's all about personal preference.
Originally posted by WP4YT
I'm a hardcore Led Zeppelin & Pink Floyd fan, so you know I think most music these days is baaad.
However I will say, some of the music that's been out in the last 2 years has vastly improved, there's actually some decent bands out there now. Like Muse.. I know they are not new, but they seem to only now just be getting on the radio and in the mainstream. Or that Irish band. But I would say before that, between 1999 through 2011 there wasn't a single good band or singer out there... nothing but crap.