Iraqi Child Asks Tony Blair and George Bush: Are you happy now?

Hi guys and galls,
i found a very sad video that i love to share with you all .
Its about the invading of Iraq, and the unjustifiable chaos, disorder and destruction that we've imposed on the people of that country.

Youtube Link - Iraqi Child Asks Tony Blair and George Bush: Are you happy now?

Hes probably happier than he would have been if Saddam was still in power.

Especially if hes a Kurd.

Can't watch it right now, but the fact that another child understood and recognized the gruesome errors the grown-ups made in the past is sad enough for me..

reply to post by Spookycolt


Love the avatar

I'm still asking myself how Bush and Blair did not end up in front of a judge at the Haigue?

reply to post by WhySoBlinded


The Sons of the fallen were told these two things by Enoch:

1.1 These are the words of the blessing of Enoch; according to which he
blessed the chosen and righteous who must be present on the day of
distress, which is appointed, for the removal of all the wicked and impious.
1.2 And Enoch began his story and said: -

The Righteous MUST be present on the day of distress so that they could witness the cruelty of the wicked. The hope is also listed in this one short verse.

They were also told this:

1.8 But for the righteous: He will make peace, and He will keep safe the
Chosen, and mercy will be upon them. They will all belong to God, and
will prosper and be blessed, and the light of God will shine on them.
1.9 And behold! He comes with ten thousand Holy Ones; to execute
judgment upon them and to destroy the impious, and to contend with all
flesh concerning everything that the sinners and the impious have done and
wrought against Him.

Further, the Sons of the fallen were told this:

5.4 But you have not persevered in, nor observed, the Law of the Lord. But
you have transgressed and have spoken proud and hard words with your
unclean mouth against his majesty. You hard of heart! You will not have
peace!

5.5 And because of this you will curse your days, and the years of your life
you will destroy. And the eternal curse will increase and you will not
receive mercy.

In the first century, Jesus told of the Builders (Masons) who rejected the Chief Cornerstone. Of course, Christ is the cornerstone of the church. What is the cornerstone? It is the Will of God. The will is to give and receive, but never take. If you wish to have wealth, it must be given away after it is earned. In this case, the fallen Sons have taken without earning. They have kept the wealth for themselves as the thieves they are. In doing this, they have corrupted the world at their own hands. They have no peace. As this video shows, no peace can come from division. Unity on the 'right' side of truth brings peace. This comes by following God's will. Love fulfills God's law. Hate and greed breaks the law.

We ALL need to learn this lesson. On the cross, there were two thieves representing all of humanity. Only one repented. How? By recognizing the cornerstone in the middle.

In Masonry, the Cornerstone sets the direction of the entire building to follow. Babylon is founded on the wrong cornerstone. It will crumble.

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I can"t believe you watched that film before posting your comment. The film pretty much sums up what we all know.....that the invasion of Iraq has been nothing but one long war crime.

'The planned invasion of Iraq is nothing more than the pre meditated murder of thousands of people in the name of saving them from their dictator'.

I read this in a paper during the build up to the invasion - even at that time these words rang true.

Originally posted by Spookycolt
Hes probably happier than he would have been if Saddam was still in power.

Especially if hes a Kurd.

I highly doubt that rather sweeping statement.
While Saddam was in power, they had a very good education system, good medical facilities, good power and water infrastructure and radicals of all flavours were kept at bay by the secular rule.

We bombed the crap out of everything, civil and military alike - which in itself is a war crime - and then gave rebuilding contracts to western corporations who took the huge profits from the over-inflated costs, and left the place in a complete mess without fixing anything.
We poisoned the place with DU and other contaminants, causing a huge spike in birth defects and cancers. We killed or maimed tens of thousands of innocent people and those left were then at the mercy of radical elements we empowered by inaction and no clear post invasion policy.

Yeah, he is really sooooo better off now that we have brought our western freedom and democracy to Iraq.

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So killing tens of thousands compared to the millions or so that Saddam did is worse?

Using gas against your people is better than what we did?

Saddam was robbing that country, at least now they have a better chance at being a part of the nation. Saddam conducted a pointless war for how many years against Iran?

This man was no savior to the people and was far worse in many regards than what the US did to them.

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My gues is that the international criminal court is part ( or a extension)of the elite group behind all of our problems and greed related wars .
international criminal court = criminal indeed

Originally posted by Spookycolt
reply to post by Britguy

 

So killing tens of thousands compared to the millions or so that Saddam did is worse?

You mean all those Iraqis and Iranians that we pitted Saddam against?

Using gas against your people is better than what we did?

You mean those Kurds that we got to attack ol' Saddam then abandoned? War is terrible but he carried out those acts after being supplied with the means to do so by our own governments, and carried out those attacks without a peep of indignation at the time from our own governments. We knew exactly what he was doing, but at the time he was "our" guy fighting the evil Iranians!

Saddam was robbing that country, at least now they have a better chance at being a part of the nation. Saddam conducted a pointless war for how many years against Iran?

All governments rob the people blind. At least he DID roll a lot of that money into improving the place for the people, before we destroyed it all. As for the "pointless" war against Iran, that was purely for us - mainly the US and UK - only it didn't work out, which is why he fell from favour so rapidly.

This man was no savior to the people and was far worse in many regards than what the US did to them.

Yep, he was certainly no angel, but is it really so good to justify the destruction of an entire country and the killing, maiming and poisoning of it's people simply over a grudge? I think not, and the likes of Blair and Bush should be held accountable for those killed... on both sides.

There is really only one way to find out if Iraq is better off now than before...

Walk thru the streets of Iraq, with a camera and ask random Iraqis is they are better
off now than they were before the US invasion.

Originally posted by michael1983l
I'm still asking myself how Bush and Blair did not end up in front of a judge at the Haigue?

Why do you think Haigue cant or will not convict these two?

There are a few reaons.

1. The US is a country that fights for peace. To be convited of a war crimes would not be tolerated by the US government. No matter how guilty they are.

2. The US/UK governments are to powerful for Haigue to pass any kind of judgment on them. Uless that court wants to experiance its own destruction. Haigue would be deamed usless after such a triel.

Haigue gets its authority because it is backed up by the US and UK government. And the US and UK have wide support from the other majority of nations that back up Haigue.

These people are above the law. Because their governments are. Haigue only works on them who have no support of the US or UK.

You mean those Kurds that we got to attack ol' Saddam then abandoned? War is terrible but he carried out those acts after being supplied with the means to do so by our own governments, and carried out those attacks without a peep of indignation at the time from our own governments. We knew exactly what he was doing, but at the time he was "our" guy fighting the evil Iranians!

Saddam still carried out these attacks, we didn't. How many tens of thousands did he take revenge on?

And don't forget that all this started because Saddam went into Kuwait, we didn't force him to do that but we are obligated to kick him out since Kuwait is a member of the UN.

Go read up on Saddam's exploits and you will be truly disgusted. Some estimate he has killed up to a million people out of a country of about 22 million.

What we did in comparison is nothing.

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The fact that Saddam carried out the attacks is not in dispute. However, he did so with weapons supplied by the west and with their full knowledge and blessing.

As for Kuwait, the USA didn't give a damn about Kuwait but saw it as an opportunity to attack Saddam Hussein after the fact. They knew full well that he was moving against Kuwait and told him it was not their business. He sure fell into that little trap.

Bottom line, yes, he was responsible for much death and suffering, but our own governments are also responsible for as much, if not more in empowering him in the first place as "our" guy in the region, yet walk away from it all every time behind the cloak of propaganda.

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What we did in comparison is nothing.

Maybe you should read up on that too. Because what the US did is actually comparable.

The US went to war with Iraq in 2003 based on a lie. The US went there and killed people they had no right to kill.
Why is Amerikan killing Iraqis more justified than Sadam killing Iraqis?

You people had to lie to the world to giver your self a excuse to go there and kill them. Is that what you americans call justice?

Do you really feel that proud to be an American that you must defend their lie?

Originally posted by Spookycolt
reply to post by Britguy

 

So killing tens of thousands compared to the millions or so that Saddam did is worse?

Using gas against your people is better than what we did?

Saddam was robbing that country, at least now they have a better chance at being a part of the nation. Saddam conducted a pointless war for how many years against Iran?

This man was no savior to the people and was far worse in many regards than what the US did to them.

Rofl, you're clueless, aren't you? We did them a service by blowing up 1.7 million Iraqis? We did them a service by using depleted uranium shells which will remain in the area for billions of years causing birth defects and lifelong health problems? Because, you know, uranium is safer and more humanitarian than gas. That "pointless war" was encouraged and funded by us, or do you not know where Saddam got his weapons?

Oh no, Saddam was a bad leader! He was a bad leader, guys! We did them a service by sticking around for nearly a decade after Saddam died and obliterating their families! Yeah!!! AMRIKUAAWWW DA BEST NASHUN IN DA WURRRLD!!!! FREEDUM BRINGERZZZZZ!!! LIBURTEE AND JUSHTISH!!!! BAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW BAAAWWWWWW!!

Originally posted by Spookycolt
reply to post by Britguy

 

So killing tens of thousands compared to the millions or so that Saddam did is worse?

Using gas against your people is better than what we did?

Saddam was robbing that country, at least now they have a better chance at being a part of the nation. Saddam conducted a pointless war for how many years against Iran?

This man was no savior to the people and was far worse in many regards than what the US did to them.

One's crime doesn't make another's justified. Saddam did commit crimes. But instead of trying to take down Saddam without causing harm to a whole nation, they sent in a brutal execution squad to destroy the country. Millions were killed. The nation was destroyed and terrorists began springing up AFTER the invasion. Makes you wonder if the US did the right thing, doesn't it?

Sadly the generations of post war Iraq and Afghanistan have the right to ask as many questions they want, after all they will inherit nothing but chaos, death and destruction for years to come

Saddam was a killer by what US tagged him with in order to gain support for the take over of the nation and destruction of their infrastructure, Sadly he was a tyrant but we here in the so call America the free are not exempt of tyranny either by those that call themselves leaders and and we are been killed everyday by other means that do not necessarily include weapons.

Still that nation enjoyed better times under their "tyranny" leader that they do today under nothing but death and the reminds of what other nations can do with for power and with power.

And anybody that doesn't understand what it means to live in a country that the future is still been debated and power is still a struggle have nothing to add here, but misguided opinions.

Saddam kept the individual gangs and religious fanatics from making their own government, what America did was unlocked that(by killing Saddam) and now you have small gangs popping up and controlling the country.

Country was better under Saddam, where the ones that complain were minority, but that anti-Saddam minority was exaggerated by the media(same with Gaddafi, but Saddam was much better than Gaddafi), now we have majority hating the new establishment but media does not cover it because it will make them look bad.