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Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
This is why 1 encourages PEACE, for ALL for unless you are 100% sure of the full extent of EXISTENCE how can you really know...
1 appreciates all who have taken a look and shall MAY WHAT EVER GUIDES YOU (ALL) LEAD YOU TO PEACFUL CONCLUSION within Existing with other CREATOR Creations.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
Truth can not be seen. The eyes draw in light and forms an image in the mind. People conform and hide their true opinions and perspective from you.
Originally posted by arpgme
Truth is in the darkness. When people have no identity they are not scared to be "themselves" (Yes, I know that is an ironic thing to say - but it is truth).
Originally posted by arpgme
Light appears and disappears and yet, it is so seductive that it got darkness believing itself to be "it". That "it" is temporary. That "it" just changes and appears and disappears which is not true..
To not attach is freedom.
Originally posted by arpgme
Knowledge is the memorization of physics (order of light).
apathy is freedom...
Care is attachment to light (matter/form) which will appear and disappear...
To teach others to let go, to be ignorant, to find apathy... they will find inner peace and the action that arises will be natural of their temporary human form (human needs - food, sex, shelter, beverage).
It is ironic because to teach people this ultimately shows that I do care even though I am saying the exact opposite.
Look pass the words and the emotional attachments you have to words and see what is beyond it...
It is freedom... freedom of care and responsibility.... freedom of worrying and stress... and a knowing that all is/will be well.
Originally posted by daskakik
Not sure what you are talking about but this made me recall a part of Robert Monroe's "Journeys out of the body" where, in response to his question of what is the "big secret", he is taken to a place and made to experience "himself", as he is instructed to perform harmful functions on a young girl. He feels it is wrong and appeals to those handing out the order. They tell him it would be better for the girl if he performed the act, instead of others that were on their way. He complies.
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
It is my understanding that while many of the current "new age" ideas have gained a certain validation from the research that Robert Monroe did back in the 50's and 60's, like chakras, the third eye, binaural tones, light, love, OOBE's, the soul transcending and other trippy sounding things, which are not new, certain darker fragments of that research are dismissed, for example, the experience that I mentioned above.
Originally posted by daskakik
When Monroe's work is viewed objectively, then a different message is received. It isn't the "awake to light and love" message that many seem to have become stuck upon.
edit on 3-2-2013 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
accepted that there is more to the process then just positive engagements and encounters ect especially when allowing prana energy movements between plains, yes 1 understands this and many should who are sincere in interacting.
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
accepted that there is more to the process then just positive engagements and encounters ect especially when allowing prana energy movements between plains, yes 1 understands this and many should who are sincere in interacting.
I think you misunderstood what was going on in that situation. It had nothing to do with interactions between plains. The paranormal part of the story isn't negative. The negative action is what seems to allude to an incident of rape between two humans and it would seem that the big secret is that life is like a play and the veil is there to allow the "actors" to really "live" their parts.
[color=cyan] 1 is still not sure of what your saying fully but I will try my best to. daskakik but your input is welcome I will try to better understand and will respond when possible.
Now if that is true, then the right path leading to peaceful conclusions, in your words, or that spreading "love and light", in more general terms, is not what life is about.
edit on 3-2-2013 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
The attachment to life is a scary one because life is temporary and the spirit is always changing and living with different personality and bodies...
Originally posted by arpgme
Yes, if something/someone was threatening freedom, that would be a threat to ALL, so if one jumps in they are protecting themselves.
If they allow the enslavement to grow it may be them next... so to step in to protect others is actually protecting Self.
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
I'm sorry but I guess the example needs a little more background to be understood. In 1958 Robert Monroe started having OOBEs. In order to study the phenomenon scientifically he set up the Monroe Institute which compiled information from different people on OOBE's. He wrote 3 books which describe his experiences and how he tries to make sense of them. There is a lot of information on how he became better at traveling outside his body and how he tried to prove the phenomenon scientifically although he admits early on that given the science of the times that it couldn't be done in his lifetime.
The central idea that I took from his three books and what I believe to be what Monroe considered to be the truth about reality, as far as his life, was that earth is a type of tourist attraction. He visited earth with a friend as an alien/spirit. Part of the attraction was that they could be born into the world and experience life on the physical level. The conditions included a barrier that blocked memories in order to get a full and convincing experience. The problem was that it was very addicting and as soon as his first body died and he found himself back outside, he went back for more, over and over.
Originally posted by daskakik
So, if there is any truth to his claims, the barriers are there to make life more convincing. The idea that we need to bust down these barriers and connect is from the inside looking out. From the view that Monroe describes in his first 2 books, from the outside looking in, is that there is no connecting or ALL.
Originally posted by daskakik
His third book does have that "new age" "light and love" tone to it but he also claimed to have been forced to change the original by the publisher. I'm guessing that that must have been the issued because his first two books have none of it and I doubt that he could have had these types of experiences for almost 30 years and missed the light and love that others claim is all around.