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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:25 AM
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You stated a THING that was in either a One or Two Dimensional State...as you typed in your post.

You cannot make such a statement and the information you post is using very simple terms to describe Geometry for the layman as people cannot visualize Dimensionality in either a lessor or greater number of three.

Split Infinity




posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:30 AM
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You are applying definitions and explainations of things as far as how they apply to Human Observation. You make the premise that just because a person is only capable of experiencing TIME in a limited way that the past nor the Future exists.

This is a assumption based upon Human Perceptions when Time in reality is not linear.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


You are applying definitions and explainations of things as far as how they apply to Human Observation. You make the premise that just because a person is only capable of experiencing TIME in a limited way that the past nor the Future exists.

This is a assumption based upon Human Perceptions when Time in reality is not linear.

Split Infinity



It is an assumption to assume the past exists when it has never been experienced.
Linear time is an idea.

No one experiences time in anyway (not a limited way). Tomorrow is just a word (concept/idea). Tomorrow has never been experienced.
Only now will ever be experienced and now is when time is projected.

Can you hear the past?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:03 AM
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I addressed this issue and your question here when I described the Dual Atomic Clocks as one was left on Earth and one placed on the Space Shuttle and how after the Shuttle orbitted at high velocity away from Earth...when the two clocks were compared...it proved the ability to travel forward in Time as the shuttle clock was hehind in time showing the people aboard he skipped that moment and travel forward in time.

This proves moot you statement here.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


I addressed this issue and your question here when I described the Dual Atomic Clocks as one was left on Earth and one placed on the Space Shuttle and how after the Shuttle orbitted at high velocity away from Earth...when the two clocks were compared...it proved the ability to travel forward in Time as the shuttle clock was hehind in time showing the people aboard he skipped that moment and travel forward in time.

This proves moot you statement here.

Split Infinity



The pressure (magnetism etc) in space is different than that on earth and movement occurs at a different rate.
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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This statement makes absolutely no sense at all. This clock experiment is about the effect of Gravity upon Space/Time. It is known as Time Dilation and is a fact.

Magnetism is the same in Space as it is on Earth. It works the same way and there is no difference.

Why you would even bring this up is beyond me.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


I addressed this issue and your question here when I described the Dual Atomic Clocks as one was left on Earth and one placed on the Space Shuttle and how after the Shuttle orbitted at high velocity away from Earth...when the two clocks were compared...it proved the ability to travel forward in Time as the shuttle clock was hehind in time showing the people aboard he skipped that moment and travel forward in time.

This proves moot you statement here.

Split Infinity



The question is; Who time traveled. The atomic clock or the people on the airliner?

It was the atomic clock that had a very very smal differnce compared to the clock on the ground.

This does not prove that we actually made up time. The atomic clock did make up time. But that is a different thing.
The time we go by does not really have anything to do with real time. This atomic clock is just made to be our standard time to fallow on daily basis on earth.

If a person did this experiment for a very long time. He would never have time taveled, But he would have had to adjust he's clock because it shows wrong time.
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:31 AM
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Time passed a bit slower for the Astronauts on the Shuttle as when their clock was compared to the ground clock...their clock was a bit behind. Thus they traveled in time a small degree.

If we increased their speed dramaticlly as well as increased th distance away from Earth...YEARS could be the difference as they could have left Earth in 2013 been in Space for 10 days on their shuttle clock and when they came back...the year would be 2015.

This is Time Dilation.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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Time passed a bit slower for the Astronauts on the Shuttle as when their clock was compared to the ground clock...their clock was a bit behind. Thus they traveled in time a small degree.

If we increased their speed dramaticlly as well as increased th distance away from Earth...YEARS could be the difference as they could have left Earth in 2013 been in Space for 10 days on their shuttle clock and when they came back...the year would be 2015.

This is Time Dilation.

Split Infinity



Wrong. It dosent matter what our clock show. Our clock might be of by years. The only thing this does is make the person fly for a longer period of time. Because he's clock is moving slower.

Say that the person is set to travel out into space for 5 years at a very high speed. The speed makes he's clock slow down. That will make the person actually fly for a longer period of time. Because he fallows he's onboard clock.

If he's fuel capasity was set to last for 10 years earth time. This person would never have made it back. Because he would have run out of fuel. Because he would have traveled a lot futher than expected compared to earth time.


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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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The passage of Time is experienced at the same rate by both those on the Shuttle and those on Earth. Time will pass slower as com,pared to Earth Time but as I stated...the Astronauts will percieve it as the same.

Thus more Time will pass on Earth than will pass on the Shuttle and you are attempting to say that the Shuttle is passing the same amount of time but just slower...but in reality...time is calculated by Movement and Distance so abourd the Shuttle a person will age less than a person on Earth.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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The passage of Time is experienced at the same rate by both those on the Shuttle and those on Earth. Time will pass slower as com,pared to Earth Time but as I stated...the Astronauts will percieve it as the same.

Thus more Time will pass on Earth than will pass on the Shuttle and you are attempting to say that the Shuttle is passing the same amount of time but just slower...but in reality...time is calculated by Movement and Distance so abourd the Shuttle a person will age less than a person on Earth.

Split Infinity



You dont understand this at all do you.

If the person onboard the space craft travels by he's onboard clock. He's time will go a lot slower then on earth.
correct.

But dont you see the answer to the problem? Are you really that groomed?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:14 AM
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So many have contructed themselves into a contructed world that they don't know where they are.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:15 AM
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What problem?

Time has been proven to be relative and the rate of passage of time is not a constant as depending upon distance and velocity away from the Earth or Gravity Well...determines the passage of time.

If we were to increase speed and distance...the Astronauts would experience the passage of say 10 days as they always would. The clock abourd the Shuttle that is Atomic and runs and calculated passage of time by the vibrationary state of the material inside it.

The Astronauts will age 10 days at very high speed and far distance....but on Earth at such speeds perhaps a YEAR will pass. Now the people on Earth experienced a YEAR of TIME and aged a year biologically where the Astronauts aged and experienced 10 days biologically.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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What problem?

Time has been proven to be relative and the rate of passage of time is not a constant as depending upon distance and velocity away from the Earth or Gravity Well...determines the passage of time.

If we were to increase speed and distance...the Astronauts would experience the passage of say 10 days as they always would. The clock abourd the Shuttle that is Atomic and runs and calculated passage of time by the vibrationary state of the material inside it.

The Astronauts will age 10 days at very high speed and far distance....but on Earth at such speeds perhaps a YEAR will pass. Now the people on Earth experienced a YEAR of TIME and aged a year biologically where the Astronauts aged and experienced 10 days biologically.

Split Infinity



So what you are saying is that we are as old as our clock tell us we are?

If a person travels at high speeds away from earth for 5 years. And he's onboard clock slows down. He ages a lot slower?

The traveler observed that he's time was slower. And that he's 5 years seamed to take a long time.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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So many have contructed themselves into a contructed world that they don't know where they are.


The problem than is who are they?



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:46 AM
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You don't seem to be getting this.

We are as old as our body ages.

The Astronauts that travel for 5 Years at say one half Light Speed would experience 5 years of passed time both in perception as well as 5 years of Biological aging.

On Earth...perhaps 20 years will pass and the people on Earth will experience 20 years of time passing as well as their bodies will age 20 years.

The Earth Clock will show 20 years past and the Shuttles clock will show 5 years past.

That is about as clear as I can make it.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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So many have contructed themselves into a contructed world that they don't know where they are.


The problem than is who are they?


They are not.
Oneness dreams.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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You don't seem to be getting this.

We are as old as our body ages.

The Astronauts that travel for 5 Years at say one half Light Speed would experience 5 years of passed time both in perception as well as 5 years of Biological aging.

On Earth...perhaps 20 years will pass and the people on Earth will experience 20 years of time passing as well as their bodies will age 20 years.

The Earth Clock will show 20 years past and the Shuttles clock will show 5 years past.

That is about as clear as I can make it.

Split Infinity



But its not clear.

If the person treavels 1/2 the speed of light for 5 years. He clock slowes down. correct.

There are no data that proves the biological aging slowes down.

If he's clock slowes down. And he uses a 24 hours day time line like we do on earth. This person will spend more time in space pr.day. Because he must use more time to reach a 24 hour time travel to have travel one day.

My question is: Does he's biological clock really slow down?

The answer is no. If you add it all up.



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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The Atomic Clock does not slow down...TIME...slows down for the Shuttle Astronauts.

You are confusing the reality of Time being percieved as a constant with the rate of passage of Time dependent upon velocity and distance froma Gravity well.

I would suggest you look at Einstiens....Relativity and General Realativity to get the whole picture.

Split Infinity



posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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So many have contructed themselves into a contructed world that they don't know where they are.


The problem than is who are they?


They are not.
Oneness dreams.


This one i didn't understand.

You did say "they" in you text that i answered?



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