Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by tothetenthpower
Obama isn't a socialist. If he was, then the healthcare package would have included a public option, which mind you was popular among voters
at the time.
So because of the exclusion of the “public option” this entire OP is somehow discredited and Obama and his buddy Cass Sunstein have no socialist
I think their actions and words speak louder than your opinions.
I believe Tenth is right there. Obama is not a Socialist, but he IS a Collectivist, of which Socialism is but a pale subset. Other Collectivist types
include Communists, Fascists, and Corporatists. Collectivism itself is not a problem. The problems arise when collectivists monopolize control, and
force their decisions on some one else, who may NOT be of the collectivist mindset. The centralization of control in collectivism is the real enemy. I
don't care if collectivists set up their own cute little communes and dictate away to one another, so long as they leave me out of that loop. When
you apply the concept to an entire nation, and collect and centralize the power in a single place or entity with no escape hatches for the citizens
who just want to be left alone to thrive, you end up with something like the Soviet Union, Cuba, China... or the modern-day U.S.
WE THE PEOPLE are rapidly descending into the very same sort of system I spent my entire mis-spent youth fighting against. Now I'm old, and it
appears the fighting never ends. No rest for the weary.
I don't care what sort of cute little label people employ to try and separate one variety collectivist from another, and thereby keep the constant
arguing going. "He's a commie!" - "No he's not, because commies do this or that or the other, and he's not doing that!" It's all a sham, a
charade, the intention of which is to keep people unbalanced and at each other's throats while the collectivists have their wicked way with us,
laughing all the way down the halls of power because they've pulled the little blankets over everyone's eyes, keeping us from seeing the bigger
picture, the main expanse of wool.