Mysterious cave found in Ecuador

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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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Remarkable find. Perhaps here, we have another prehistoric site that dates back to the last iceage.Are they saying that these people were trading all over South America? That's what I'm getting here. So this civilization must have been quite large to be able to trade in so many places. What were their trade goods? What was it about this location that allowed the growth of said trade?

This raises so many questions. I wonder why it wasn't investigated sooner. Could it be because the initial survey showed so much anomolous data that the mainstream didn't want to open a can of worms by investigating further. They do seem to supress sites like this when they are initally found, because they don't fit with the going theories about early people.

So once again there is found evidence that there were civilizations that date to the ice age. Would be interesting if these sites that date to that time could be linked to one people.

Nice find thanks for this info.S&F.
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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 10:23 AM
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Your posts are always excellent. A great and interesting read, many thanks



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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There are certain peculiarities with this Goddess motif that i should mention, she rarely appears pregnant, nor has large breasts and buttocks unlike other ancient fertility Goddess figurines.


My research has suggested she represented the Underworld Goddess, who wouldn't normally be associated with birth, but on rare occasions was.

It isnt easy to understand or explain, the best example i can give is the cult of Ereshkigal/Erec-ki-gala



In Mesopotamian mythology, Ereshkigal , lit. "great lady under earth") was the goddess of Irkalla, the land of the dead or underworld.


Ereshkigal is therefore the sister of Ishtar and from one point of view her counterpart, the symbol of nature during the non-productive season of the year. As the doctrine of two kingdoms, one of this world and one of the world of the dead, becomes crystallized, the dominions of the two sisters are sharply differentiated from one another.









Then father Enki spoke out to the gala-tura and the kur-jara: " Go and direct your steps to the underworld. Flit past the door like flies. Slip through the door pivots like phantoms. The mother who gave birth, Erec-ki-gala, on account of her children, is lying there. Her holy shoulders are not covered by a linen cloth. Her breasts are not full like a cagan vessel. Her nails are like a pickaxe (?) upon her. The hair on her head is bunched up as if it were leeks.



etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk...


So in short, the female figure seen in the caves would correspond to the Queen of the Underworld, who was generally scary...



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It's general practical difficulties involved with the location that appear to have kept the archaeologists away...
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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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i truly believe that this is a form of contact through time by beings with imense technological capabilites. It looks primitive on the surface, but if you look at it the thing between the two looks like a tesla coil. And the flag and ray things coming from there heads could symbolize thought..telepathy. And the people in rows in different poses could be calling out. something or sending a message about whats happening to them.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Amazing find. It's incredible to me that things of our ancestral history are out there just waiting to be found. I definitely have to believe the 'zig-zag' fertility depictions are somehow connected, but it always boggles my mind when trying to think of how civilizations so far apart and far removed from eachother could share and build such similar objects with similar meanings.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 11:46 AM
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Well i guess as the earliest evidence for this cult dates back around 30,000 years perhaps that would have seen a more localised common point of origin, before they all went their seperate ways...?



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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I get lost for hours sometimes looking at pics like No. 6. It's quite obviously a message. Something important
enough to cause someone to say to themselves. I.e. I will make record of this, by softening stone as to make deep carvings there upon it. That depict this great thing, that should not be forgotten. To further speculate at the meaning of which is something like.

" K this guy with the helmut ? Was a God because he came from Orion ". Just by what you've already said.

But to me, the carvings in pic 6, do look as if they were slashed into softened rock. Possibly with a common tool of wood, the same gage as a pop sickle stick.

As always SnF
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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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The coastal area of Chirije which i think the caves are connected with is seen as a major UFO hotspot, lots of videos from there...


verito-wwwufoecuadorcom.blogspot.co.uk...







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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 03:33 PM
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I wonder if the DJ's were Daft Punk.
But this is way cool.
My inlaws are from Ecuador.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Wow...Neolithic Porn.....I would have never believed it if you didn't give us the pictures.
I mean, good gravy, there ain't no symbolism to interpret in those little gems. It's just legs hiked up, spread eagle and check out that pork chop, eh?

I mean this in all sincerity, so hopefully the ATS Church Lady isn't moderating this thread and we can actually be allowed to have an uncensored adult conversation, but when I took a gander at these glyphs which are an obvious depiction of a female in a ready-for-action-jackson position, ...and just in case anyone still didn't get the message they went on ahead and demarcated the, ehrm, wagon-wheel ruts, to leave no doubt about what that there middle part was supposed to represent..., it was the first time I actually ever considered the possibility that all the known prehistoric fertility statuettes, glyphs, symbols, whatever, weren't meant to be symbolic at all.

What if what we have been looking at all this time through rose-colored glasses, sipping tea with our pinky up in the air, is just the caveman version of Penthouse?

Seriously, the statues, pictures, what if all of it were for the sole purpose of being used to arouse the men folk?
OMG I'm a freakin' genius! I mean, duh, we acknowledge them as being for fertility purposes. Well, seems obvious to me that the fertility purpose was as inspiration for arousal.

I just solved one of the ancient mysteries of the universe! WHOOT! Hopefully someone will get to witness it before I get an ATS T&C spankin' for talking about lady parts.
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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by truthermantwo
i truly believe that this is a form of contact through time by beings with imense technological capabilites. It looks primitive on the surface, but if you look at it the thing between the two looks like a tesla coil. And the flag and ray things coming from there heads could symbolize thought..telepathy. And the people in rows in different poses could be calling out. something or sending a message about whats happening to them.


A Tesla Coil? As the crotch?
I'm thinking it would be best for me to not participate on this thread, since I simply do not possess the personal restraint to control myself.
Yes. I am that goofy.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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OMG I'm a freakin' genius!


That's what I been try'in a tell ya's !



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:09 PM
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Very interesting.
As usual always interesting stuff from you.

S&F.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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Many of the cave drawings resemble atmospheric plasma discharge events in earlier times. Natives hid in caves for security and carved what they saw. Fits in nicely with theories proposed by Dave Talbott and Walter Thornhill. They answer many questions concerning ancient art and mythology in their Thunderbolts Project.



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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I wonder how many undiscovered placed like this exist in the world. They could be anywhere, even somewhere in my back yard.

I may just be seeing things, but I think I see a grey alien in one of the cave drawings. It's head is big, somewhat triangle-ish and it's eyes are big. I could be bias, but if that is what it's supposed to be then that is WAY cool.

Great Post!



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 04:56 PM
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Let's be honest stupid girl, men just can't leave their todgers alone, never have, never will.

(Men had penises even further back than 30kya)

So...it's easy to imagine this is neolithic 'stimulant'.



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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 05:17 PM
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The smileyface looks familiar


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posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 06:30 PM
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Very cool! I'm getting the willy's from hitting post after post of really good, positive and interesting posts.

Anyways...

So check this out:



tell me that's not a philosoraptor!



posted on Jan, 23 2013 @ 06:43 PM
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It is purely amazing to me how many cultures have involved Orion and specifically Sirius in their creation stories. Sooo are they just stories?? Mind boggling stuff on this planet. Love it! Great info man





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