posted on Jan, 19 2013 @ 04:59 PM
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
(my quote) today its just a men's club dedicated to mutual assistance, self-improvement and good works.
That is what I was saying is a facade. "it's just". There is no question the Masonic Society does good works. In fact, that would seem to be the
general focus and something I'm glad to see still exists in the world. It wasn't long ago someone was on here (no names needed) suggesting the
Masons were soaking the public by the money they took in being misdirected and used for personal enrichment. I didn't have much doubt to what I'd
find in debunking such a silly claim but was actually surprised by HOW baseless it was in Financials available online for a number of Lodges and their
I'm not sure which your asking here. Why I don't think they are evil or nefarious ...which I don't even rate worth a reply and hope that wasn't
the point of question ...or why I figure I won't know more?
Assuming the latter, how am I supposed to learn more? The Masonic Society, by it's very nature, is a closed one. I can't do public research on who
he was in that life or what he did. I have paperwork, I have the jewellery of my Gandmother (His ring was buried with him, I believe) and I have the
memories of the Funeral with the Masons I didn't even know existed then and many seemed surprised to see at the service. Obviously, I wasn't the
only one who didn't know. My Dad and Uncle were both in at very low levels then drifted away..again, things I've learned after my Dad's passing
estate and paperwork. Outside of that? There would seem to be a very real point where there isn't much more for options to pursue.
(My quote) However, there is something to be said about the origins of the Masons, what supported and started their number and what happened to
I'm not getting into all that. I'm no authority on this subject, as noted above, by ANY stretch. I have opinions and knowledge drawn from books and
family documents I now have from inheritance and the like. Elaborating on how spotty my knowledge is, isn't terribly helpful...beyond admitting
freely I'm aware it is based on opinion and things I can't verify. I'd give anything to have known or been older to be told about my Grandfather's
other side. He passed as he lived in that respect. Holding his own council and whatever secrets that included.
and we Masons guard and husband it, is that your belief?
Nope. If some of what was entrusted by leaders and others over the centuries and subsequently lost IS still held today, I wouldn't see it as
hoarding/controlling since...by definition...it IS of no material value. It has to be something worth/able to sell to be valuable in THAT way. Making
the large assumption here that so much isn't just hopelessly destroyed or otherwise lost forever in the ether? I've always believed 'protected'
and not 'hoarded' or even 'managed' would be the term. My opinions tho... Opinions it's nearly impossible to ever really know either way on.
Personal integrity is the only wealth of worth. It doesn't require safes or polishing and its worth is constant
I agree. That quality above and outside all others was the one I cited because without that, nothing in terms of holding valuable historic items or
anything else that COULD be warped into personal wealth today is valid as an assumption in the first place. Integrity and in more vague terms, Honor,
are the only things that would tend to KEEP such secrets for so long and to this day. Ironically, I'd say the more evil an organization, the LESS
likely to maintain secrecy in any true or meaningful way. Just the way I think life and values work.