Unbelievable photos of how bad Beijing’s air has gotten, page 2

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Good lord! What the hell is wrong with humankind? We see the problems we create yet we continue the problems, even enhancing it!

Seriously, when we become extinct it's because we DESERVED it.

We either make serious changes NOW or it's all over.

Game over, man.

More now then ever, there needs to be a global shift to clean, renewable, cheap/free energy. Cold fusion, focus fusion (DPF), solar, etc. Sources show that there's a market shift in the energy sector, away from fossil fuels & towards LENR. So there's some optimism that this will be the year it become commercially viable. If
not this year, the next.

The pollution in some of areas of China is so bad it's hard to believe.

This is just growing pains. It wasn't that long ago that LA had similar smog problems...



China is developing at a rapid pace and no doubt within 15-20 years it'll have effective environmental protection policies in place. For now though, its mindset is no different to that of the US in the 1960s, 70s and 80s - profit at all costs.

reply to post by TheIllusiveMan

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So.......

Are there ANY protesting because of this?

Just wondering.

reply to post by sonnny1

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What's interesting is that the government tries to not use the word pollution and attempts to avoid the topic altogether. For example, the weather forecast for that day said there will be some dense "fog" or they will say there will be some "mist" in the air.
However, because of the severity of the pollution on that day, people didn't give in to the gov't B.S. So the government later admitted that there was some pollution, and told people to avoid going outside/outside activity if possible. Pollution is a huge issue for the Chinese people because it cannot be hidden. It is not like jailing some dissident or the forced demolition of someone's home, ~which people here don't generally give a crap about~.

As far as protests, there was a lot of chatter about it on China's version of twitter called Weibo. This is what the Chinese people use to be able to protest their gov't albeit sometimes indirectly with some restrictions. Internet users in China that want to protest a sensitive topic typically use creative ways to get around the gov't censors. They often use humor or satire to protest any current issue to get around the sensors.

As far as political protests, there weren't any.

Some humor: the chinese will often refer to the smell I mentioned earlier as "The sweet smell of GDP"
they will call the smog/fog the "patriotic mist"

reply to post by TheIllusiveMan

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Thanks for getting back to me.


Crazy though how they know their pollution might be making their Country money, but Jesus.

A hell of a price to pay.

reply to post by sonnny1

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My daughter lived in China for awhile. She said that the air was so dirty and thick, sometimes she couldn't even see the building directly across from her. Sad very sad.

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Seriously? Just stop it. The whole goddamn climate change debate does not focus on Al freaking Gore. His contribution was small it's just at the time he had a lot of political capital. He said some stupid things and yes is a hypocrite that does not frigging negate a goddamn thing science has to say nor does it negate that yes the US is very largely responsible for the conditions in China at the moment so is the Chinese government. So is everyone.

... incredulous children can't stop over reacting to something some idiot said years ago.

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Yes, they're just called eco-nazi's AGW religious fanatics blah blah blah.

So they get ignored.

reply to post by sonnny1

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This is why they seek to take over American cities and develop infrastructure here. They seem to be choosing the most remote ares, but really it is just to disguise the pollution and create a safer haven for their billions of under paid workers.

I think when they come here they need to be sanctioned and controlled the same as Americans. Make them pay American salaries, benefits and guidelines as well as taxed the hell out of the same as we are.

There is a pig slaughter house that went in a few miles away from me, they hired Chinese workers who were housed there and paid Chinese wages, they sent 100% of the slaughtered meats back to China, and were not governed by the same standards and laws, taxes as an American company in the same situation. We however deal with the contaminated ground water and the Bloody/fecal mess left behind.

We need to keep a very very close eye on these sneaky tactics because we owe them so much they could undermine the entire country so easily.

Not to mention their Animal cruelty. They use OUR Swine, they use US.

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