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Originally posted by Machine
Let me keep this short and sweet. The male orgasm is simply a physical response to stimulation. It doesn�t have any connection whatsoever to spiritual matters in and of itself. It was designed by God to be enjoyed by a man and woman who are married. All this new age nonsense about, �the perfection of the climax� is nothing more than man made garbage, which takes away from the more important issues of Christ and him crucified.
Originally posted by Tamahu
"Liquor and fornication must be banished from the bosom of Gnostic homes. However, we must not be fanatics. Whosoever is incapable of handling one drink at a social gathering is as weak as someone who cannot control his liquor and gets drunk. Fornication is something entirely different. Fornication is unforgivable. Whosoever ejaculates the seminal liquor is a fornicator. Thus, for those who reach orgasm, for fornicators, the abyss and Second Death await."
Orgasm?
:shk:
There are three classes of Tantrism: white, black and grey. In White Tantrism, ejaculation of the semen is prohibited; in Black Tantrism, ejaculation of the semen is obligatory; in Grey Tantrism, ejaculation of the semen is not considered important .In the long term, Grey Tantrism is transformed into Black Tantrism. In White Tantrism, the serpent ascends along the length of the medulla of the spinal cord. In Black Tantrism, the serpent descends, projecting itself down from the coccyx towards the atomic infernos of man, becoming Satan's tail.
Normally, the Hindu yogi sits in the style of Buddha, cross-legged, and the yogini sits on his legs with her legs encircling the yogi's body and crossed behind him. Then they connect sexually, with the pair withdrawing before orgasm to avoid seminal ejaculation.
The best asana (sacred posture) for the Maithuna is the normal one: breast against breast, face-to-face, solar plexus against solar plexus in order to form a perfect androgyne; later, the man and woman withdraw from the sexual act before orgasm and seminal ejaculation.
And of course, the single person has to remain in Brahmacharya until they find their spouse.
Pranayama(breath control) is needed for one to be able to control the most powerful Sexual Energy.
Of course fanatics will object, thinking that they can enter Heaven as fornicators; just because they believe.....
:shk:
Originally posted by HermanWell said. I agree. I don't know why people go so far into it :shk:. It's pretty simple, really.
Originally posted by Arkaleus
So let me guess:
You must think that the male orgasm is something from Satan. You must think that it is wicked, nasty, evil, and something totally foul.
Originally posted by Arkaleus
An orgasm isn't a sin. I want to know what it IS. Can you answer me, or just him haw?
Arkaleus
[Edited on 29-10-2004 by Arkaleus]
Originally posted by Machine
Tamahu,
If a man and a woman are married and during the course of sex he ejaculates outside of her body, this is not a sin. There is not one word in the Bible forbidding that act. As for this whole silly orgasm topic, I�m done.
Originally posted by Herman
It's just the result of a sexual organ responding to stimulation... Am I missing something here?
Originally posted by Arkaleus
Tamahu, thanks for your cool insight. I don't buy much of that Aeon Wor guy. Whatever he got, he got by himself it seems.
Originally posted by Arkaleus
"N-kay."
Hmm. I really thought you have more to say about it.
How about we get another go at your description of heaven. You guys never gave me a clear answer. At least one that I could celebrate, anyway.
1. What are heavenly people like? What do they "do" in that happy state?
2. What makes heaven different than any other place? Why do people want to go there? Why do YOU want to go there?
3. What do you WANT to find in heaven? What would you want to enjoy forever and ever?
Can you elaborate on these questions please? It's something you guys should have plenty of things to say about. Your books tell you in rather plain writing, but I want a more personal expectation from YOU.
Arky
Originally posted by Herman
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in they name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Originally posted by Herman
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in they name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
This is talking about people who never accepted Christ as the basis for salvation. They were trying to get into eternity by the things they did. Salvation is a free gift from God. These people were trying to earn heaven and had never given their sin to Christ for removal.
Originally posted by Machine
Arkaleus,
There are several scriptures in the Holy Bible that describe certain aspects of Heaven. I�m looking forward to existing in a dimension that God has prepared for those who love him. One scripture that I love to read is this:
1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Think about this for a minute. God tells us in this scripture that no one has thought of the things God has prepared for those who love him. New bodies, new hearts that are without sin, perfect relationship with God. As Christians we look forward to serving and worshipping our God in eternity. He has wonderful things in store for us!