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i) You will not use your membership in the Websites for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not Post, use the chat feature, use videos, or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.
Originally posted by morder1
Some good points for sure OP!
I think people hold back since they dont want a visit in the middle of the night by the thought police or other agency, which is understandable, but also shows how much control they really do have over us.
Freedom of speech is truely inhibited these days, especially where every key stroke is databased and stored...
Originally posted by Freedom ERP
reply to post by oldmeatwad
Part of ATS is to debate, offer our own views on a political issue, having a reasoned discussion. I see posts as an opportunity to influence and shape views. I have read some great posts on ATS that have made me think and in some cases, change the way I think about an issue.
I do see your point about action but looking at the links you posted, they are to express your opinion to your elected representatives, who in too many cases made their mind up on an issue because someone, organisation or company have paid them to have a view.
Words are just one part of action. If we feel passionately about an issue, we need to do more than write, we need real on the ground action.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by RedmoonMWC
I was just about to bring that up. We are not even supposed to link to petitions. I found that out when I did link a pertinent petition, and got smacked with one of those violation thingies.edit on Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:36:14 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by prysmatyk
I fully concur with your statement OP but as others have said, the T&C here prohibits any recruitment for anything period.
The main reasons I joined ATS was because of the higher level of cerebral acuity of the members, no other forum I've seen yet has members with such intelligence and a sheer denial of ignorance. It truly is a shame that this wondrous site forbids us from joining together to actually have a real impact on the topics which are plaguing our nation(s), yet I do see why the T&C's are as they are.
On a personal level, I have tried the calls, letters, petitions, joining groups, being an 'activist' and even attempting to start something small in my 'neck of the woods', but nothing seems to ever get done past the point of number 3 as you stated. It is as if people are either unwilling to give of themselves enough to effect change, or they are too scared of loosing what little they have.
So how can we, some of the brightest minds, use our tenacity to overcome this quagmire of unconstitutionality being levied against us for a better America? Where do we turn to make our point known and get results. Our common ground is here on ATS, sharing our beliefs about topics causing direct harm to the people of America, we have no grounds here to make change, only proper discussion. We seem to quiesce when it comes to direct action.
We do need an outlet of sorts where we can bring our collective minds together to form solutions to the problems we discuss. A think tank sort of place where topics are treated as challenges for everyone to be a part of. We should have an avenue for all of these emotions to be transformed into action and positive change, BUT HOW?