Originally posted by kawika
reply to post by nihonjin
Japan was disarmed many years ago. What they ended up doing is developing martial arts with bare feet and fists, maybe a farm implement or two. I
would not say those people are not armed, they do not have guns,or swords, but they are certainly armed and as dangerous as someone with a metal
weapon if they get close to you.
Do you really think everyone in Japan knows karate? Actually, there's probably a higher rate of people that know karate in the US than they do in
Japan. I see quite a lot of karate schools for kids in the US, I live a few block from one, but I've never seen a single one in Japan. Also, they
didn't "develop" hand-to-hand combat after WWII and disarmament, they've had hand-to-hand combat techniques for millenia.
Originally posted by vor78
Originally posted by nihonjin
Firearms are *illegal* in Japan for everyone, except the military. Cops can't have guns, no civilian can have guns, nothing. Japan has the second
lowest crime rate in the world. Coincidence? .
Many of these countries would have low homicide rates even if you flooded the public with firearms. Its a difference of attitudes and cultures.
Mexico and Russia have strict gun laws. What are their homicide rates? Canada has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world after the
US. What is their homicide rate?
You see it here in the US, too. Several US states have homicide rates that are roughly in line with Western Europe, but have gun ownership rates
as high as you'll find anywhere. And, of course, most of our cities have huge problems, despite having gun laws that are far more strict than the
rural areas. Nationally, the homicide rate has dropped about 50% over the last 20 years, despite the fact that over 100 million new guns have been
sold in the same time frame, most of which are probably handguns and 'assault' rifles.
The point is, in many cases...and its certainly true in the US...there is no direct correlation between gun ownership rates and the homicide rate.
The point is that the claim that a lot of pro-gun people, including the NRA make, that 'guns reduce violence' has no correlation with reality. I'm not
suggesting that getting rid of guns is all that's needed to end violence, but the the facts on the ground, especially in Japan, disprove the the
claims by the NRA et al. Besides the banning of guns, Japan also has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the developed, capitalist world, that of
course helps too. Japanese culture is not inherently peaceful or nonviolent. The Japanese killed more Chinese civilians in the same time period than
Nazis killed in the Holocaust. Japanese people and their culture are perfectly compatible with
What changed the violence was the change in the economy and the laws, not "culture." Culture is completely malleable, as Japanese
history proves. If the Japanese can change their violent society into a peaceful one, so can America.
Regarding Mexico, the US Department of Justice studied the violence in Mexico, and 70% of the guns recovered from crime scenes are traceable to the
The former president of Mexico, Calderon pointed out that gun violence in places like Juarez skyrocketed after the American assault-weapon ban
Lastly, you claim that Canada has one of the highest gun ownership rates, and that's true in general, but they only have one third
as many guns
as the US has. Besides that, guns in Canada are highly regulated and they're very strict about who
is allowed to have a gun, and what
of guns they can have. In other words, Canada has a fraction of the guns the US has, and Canadian guns have much less firepower (more
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