reply to post by Pinke
A far out thread, but I think your not going to get many fans or people who will support intersex athletes or for that matter that that there is a
difference between intersex people and transgender people. In fact I had to Google it up. But to answer your questions.
Where do intersexed people belong in sports? I struggle to accept that being an exceptional intersex athlete means no respect at all, or that being a
woman with unique hormones instantly means you cannot compete. Can you suggest something that isn't a special seperate event?
No I can not suggest any special separate event. If your talking about Olympics and such maybe they can have there own sports category. I dont watch
much sports anymore, in fact the only sports I watched used to be combat sports, and I ain't going to lie, being a certain gender will give you the
edge. So yes this would be a issue in pretty much any sports I can think off.
Thought that miss universe pageant contestant I looked at her pictures, and to tell the truth she even being transgender is more hotter then most
females around even in that pageant. So I cant really comment on those type of competitions. But I can attest and even if she was the hottest women
in the world as soon as dudes find out she was male, the whole outlook would change. For most its instinctual you know nature and conditioning and
However I really dont know, in fact i dont even know who those types of shows and competitions cater to, some months ago I was watching a beauty show
for a few minutes, and in it you had models who looked like tall little boys who were taking advice from old dudes and marketers and the people who
were telling them how to dress, and walk, and how to talk, and look like, and what was hot, or appropriate. Of which the ones coaching them were gay
men, who made them dress like a sort of bland bizarre genderless dude ie more like them, and all that was supposed to be marketed to who? No clue,
but obviously it is other women, or old rich dudes, or genderless people. Because most men dont watch that stuff. And lets just say our whole
society is bizarre to say the least if one really looks at it.
So ya the smartest bet for anybody who would be on the sideline on issues like that, or issues like you bring up. In the end I think a lot of men
dont care,in fact i think most just go for what is socially acceptable, some literally by what the TV and social pressure says they should be with and
But like i said generally people even me are going to stick to there believes and guns when and if the issue is pressed. But if your intersexed and
got crazy hormones and what not, I mean that in some ways is not even on the map, but I see were it can give you an advantage at the least if you had
high testosterone and were competing in a women field. It could be in effect tantamount to using steroids as that is what the majority of steroids do
Lets just say in sports and everywhere I do not think it is an issue that is going to be touched much less solved anything soon, nor would I expect
much changes to be happening.
What would your advice be to an intersexed athlete or person when faced with the male/female check box on a form?
I dont know pick the one that you most feel you are both mentally/spiritually and physically, which again says nothing. If anything they should do
some sort of test were they keep the participants of whatever sport withing a certain limit, ie if you got crazy high testosterone and even if you are
intersexed. Sorry but I would say that would not fly, but then again who determines what limit is female and what male and whatnot. Or at least in
I have no clue how this would work if you were very feminine and trying to compete with dudes. And seeing as the only sports I would compete in "if I
was competing" or watch would be combat sport the only thing I can say is. Once that cage closes and the bell rings, male, female, whatever, all of
that would be gone out the _ The only thing I would see is a giant moving target. Which ultimately I think all sports should be about,
competition regardless, and not all this other meaningless junk.
But to deny that there is no physical differences and advantages and disadvantages is a complete lie. I really cant talk about intersexed people
however, as even the ones I think I meat or seen would vary from person to person on just what gender they are, some were really feminine others
practically dudes and anything in between. Even worked with a butch lesbians once in a while who has a girlfriend, and they joke about passing the
condoms like most guys would. So ya! Who the hell knows now a days.
Is a person being intersexed something to discuss in public? Or is it private business? Is it something to be embarrassed about?
Nothing to be embarrassed about. Discretion about talking about it in public I would advice, it all depends on the people. Me I would not care all
that much other the the the fact that you dont run into such people often, its not common but nothing to bat an eye at. While others would take it
dead serious. No joke! I used to know this guy for a bit in highschool, and there used to be this one girl who I had a class with who had a
gay/intersexed brother "or at least the guy was very feminine" and he went to the same school. Suffice to say the guy I once knew had a class
with her brother, during recess or even class and more as playful banter her brother kissed him, or so I heard later. Anyways to make a long story
short, the guy and another guy one day jumped him, literally beat the snot out of him, stomped him into the ground because of that stupid #.
So ya, there are those kinds of people out there as well. I would say, you can talk about such things in public but only in certain situations. If
anything I dont really see how it would be anybody business but the people in question. So ya! It would be a user beware type of thing, while I do not
believe most people would got to those lengths, some would, while other would just be indifferent, and yet others would not be able to relate at all.
And what is worse? Who knows. And so the whole thing would be left in constant limbo.
I know there will be some ATS'rs that think that intersexed people don't exist/are modern creatures caused by pollution, are inventions by radical
left wing people to destroy the family unit etc ... By all means have an opinion in that area, but I probably won't be addressing that side of it too
muchly if I can avoid it. Feel free to respond via U2U as well I guess if you feel you have an interesting response or question I've not thought
about but don't want to do the whole public post thingo.
OK I got to ask, cant help it and it may be better to do it over U2U/ but curiosity has got me by the tail and probably whoever else read your thread.
I mean your going on about this thing. But whats with the pinki/pinke thing? I mean are you that pinki person? How is it that you relate to this
sort of thing? I mean no offense, and believe you me I sometimes have a hard time figuring out what insults people. But what gives? Is this whole
thing a personal topic/interest? Or just something that struck your fancy one day?