New Jersey Has Stopped Approving The Transfer Of Any Guns In NJ !, page 1
Topic started on 31-12-2012 @ 04:14 PM by DarthMuerte
I am looking for confirmation of this. So far I can find only one source. Can anybody in New Jersey verify this?
Linky
I am scouring the net after first seeing this on twitter. The above is the only link I can find. Is this the beginning of obama's promise to “put his full weight behind” the effort to pass the Draconian gun registration and confiscation?
Linky
The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, in New Jersey is currently not approving any firearm transfers. Seeing as New Jersey law requires anyone seeking to purchase a firearm from a dealer with a Federal Firearms License to pass a background check, it is currently impossible to purchase a gun in New Jersey from a gun shop. With the background check system unreachable, no one can transfer a handgun, PERIOD.
I am scouring the net after first seeing this on twitter. The above is the only link I can find. Is this the beginning of obama's promise to “put his full weight behind” the effort to pass the Draconian gun registration and confiscation?
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 04:32 PM by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by SpaDe_
That could be.... I was reading about Colorado the other day in terms of the backlogging and just overwhelming slam for demand happening and they were saying they had to move people from various sections into their NICS check just to keep up. They literally couldn't tell the reporter how many they were processing and promised a count after the end of the month.
The prices I've seen on classified sites which service this region for the most part are absolutely insane! AR-15 magazines that were 10-15 dollars before CT are now $35-$40 and thats buying more than one in a bundle.
Actual AR-15 Rifles that were at the gun show last year for $500 a pop on
DPMS/Olympics are $1,600 on those sites right now. I believe it on being totally overwhelmed. People here are saying it's like nothing they've seen
before and FAR beyond the public buying craze of 08/09.
That could be.... I was reading about Colorado the other day in terms of the backlogging and just overwhelming slam for demand happening and they were saying they had to move people from various sections into their NICS check just to keep up. They literally couldn't tell the reporter how many they were processing and promised a count after the end of the month.
The prices I've seen on classified sites which service this region for the most part are absolutely insane! AR-15 magazines that were 10-15 dollars before CT are now $35-$40 and thats buying more than one in a bundle.
Actual AR-15 Rifles that were at the gun show last year for $500 a pop on
DPMS/Olympics are $1,600 on those sites right now. I believe it on being totally overwhelmed. People here are saying it's like nothing they've seen
before and FAR beyond the public buying craze of 08/09.reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 04:34 PM by SpaDe_
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
reply to post by SpaDe_
Can you post the links you have found?
Sure thing!
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Hope this helps!
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 04:45 PM by murphy22
reply to post by DarthMuerte
This is a fine example why the government should not be in the vetting the people business. All they have to do is hand an "out of order" sign on the machine and behold!....... Your rights are on hold.
This is a fine example why the government should not be in the vetting the people business. All they have to do is hand an "out of order" sign on the machine and behold!....... Your rights are on hold.
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 04:46 PM by SpaDe_
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Yes demand and fear are driving prices to outrageous new highs. I have witnessed the same things you are talking about. For example I recently witnessed a Beta C drum for an AR 15 sell for $1000! That is almost quadruple the normal retail price.
I had a friend sit at a shop recently and have to wait for 2 hours before they shop owner could get through on the NICS check line. That tells me that people are getting anything that they can get their hands on because most of the tactical style weapons have been sold out for a week or so.
Yes demand and fear are driving prices to outrageous new highs. I have witnessed the same things you are talking about. For example I recently witnessed a Beta C drum for an AR 15 sell for $1000! That is almost quadruple the normal retail price.
I had a friend sit at a shop recently and have to wait for 2 hours before they shop owner could get through on the NICS check line. That tells me that people are getting anything that they can get their hands on because most of the tactical style weapons have been sold out for a week or so.
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:06 PM by WaterBottle
reply to post by neo96
No, it's actually quite easy. Too easy.
You can go to a gun show or purchase one through a private sale without any background check in most states. Or flea market. Or craigslist. Or through your neighbor on and on.
Sorry to rain on your paranoid right wing government take over fantasy guys.
Background checks being flooded show just how hard it is to obtain a gun these days.
No, it's actually quite easy. Too easy.
You can go to a gun show or purchase one through a private sale without any background check in most states. Or flea market. Or craigslist. Or through your neighbor on and on.
Sorry to rain on your paranoid right wing government take over fantasy guys.
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:10 PM by neo96
reply to post by WaterBottle
Yeah they have gun shows everyday right?
Everyone knows where all the gun shows are happening so ever been to a gun show and purchased a weapon?
The problem most people have with gun shows is they have no clue what they are buying most prefer new weapons not second hand.
Speaking for myself that is I prefer new.
Yeah they have gun shows everyday right?
Everyone knows where all the gun shows are happening so ever been to a gun show and purchased a weapon?
The problem most people have with gun shows is they have no clue what they are buying most prefer new weapons not second hand.
Speaking for myself that is I prefer new.
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:14 PM by WaterBottle
reply to post by neo96
You can buy a gun through a private sale anywhere in most states without a background check. Private sales...that's all gun shows are. And yes, I've been to one but never purchased a gun from one myself.
You can buy a gun through a private sale anywhere in most states without a background check. Private sales...that's all gun shows are. And yes, I've been to one but never purchased a gun from one myself.
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:17 PM by neo96
reply to post by WaterBottle
Apparently most prefer to go to brick and mortars to buy their weapons.
If guns were so "easily accessible at gun shows" why the hell are they going to brick and mortar stores?
Apparently most prefer to go to brick and mortars to buy their weapons.
If guns were so "easily accessible at gun shows" why the hell are they going to brick and mortar stores?
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reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:26 PM by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by neo96
I'm not sure about other places but gun shows here in Missouri are required to have the NICS background check.
Aren't yours?
Someone mentioned a clause about 'private collections' for sale on tables but it's something I've never personally seen. The only ones I see that can be bought without a check at the gun shows locally are people standing out front with a gun or two and a for sale sign ..or occasional people walking around inside with a slung rifle or tupperware box with a handgun and a for sale tag. That's all real hit and miss though and generally? Yeah, those 'private' walk arounds are the lower quality or have other problems with them ..in my experience anyway.
(Smooth barrel on one I looked at...The guy was surprised..then pissed when I actually DID look down the barrel. I guess he actually expected someone to buy it without looking at condition? Who knows..maybe someone later did. lol)
I'm not sure about other places but gun shows here in Missouri are required to have the NICS background check.
Aren't yours?
Someone mentioned a clause about 'private collections' for sale on tables but it's something I've never personally seen. The only ones I see that can be bought without a check at the gun shows locally are people standing out front with a gun or two and a for sale sign ..or occasional people walking around inside with a slung rifle or tupperware box with a handgun and a for sale tag. That's all real hit and miss though and generally? Yeah, those 'private' walk arounds are the lower quality or have other problems with them ..in my experience anyway.
(Smooth barrel on one I looked at...The guy was surprised..then pissed when I actually DID look down the barrel. I guess he actually expected someone to buy it without looking at condition? Who knows..maybe someone later did. lol)
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:33 PM by WaterBottle
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
en.wikipedia.org...
Presently, 17 states regulate private firearm sales at gun shows. Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, Illinois and Colorado). Four states (Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania) require background checks on all handgun, but not long gun, purchasers at gun shows. Six states require individuals to obtain a permit to purchase handguns that involves a background check (Massachusetts, Michigan, North Carolina, Iowa, Nebraska). Certain counties in Florida require background checks on all private sales of handguns at gun shows. The remaining 33 states do not restrict private, intrastate sales of firearms at gun shows in any manner.[16][17]
en.wikipedia.org...
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:35 PM by WaterBottle
reply to post by neo96
Who cares what most people prefer to do?
The majority of states you can go buy a gun through a private sale without any background check at all. That's their issue if they have a problem not going to a federally regulated gun store.
Who cares what most people prefer to do?
The majority of states you can go buy a gun through a private sale without any background check at all. That's their issue if they have a problem not going to a federally regulated gun store.
reply posted on 31-12-2012 @ 05:43 PM by neo96
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
What ? They tell me guns shows don't have background checks!!!
Live in Indiana where they say our gun laws are too lax and yet we never had a mass shooting others can say the same to.
I'm not sure about other places but gun shows here in Missouri are required to have the NICS background check.
What ? They tell me guns shows don't have background checks!!!
Live in Indiana where they say our gun laws are too lax and yet we never had a mass shooting others can say the same to.
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