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posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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hi greyer, your avatar is of a type of being from the cosmos...

do you know they exist?


did you know that Humans exist on other planets in this universe?




posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Hey thanks cornucopia, I am one of the individuals who has been let known that they exist. Certainly some of the forum wanderers like me know that the way the aliens reveal themselves is so much different than the knowledge of any human being, it has to be correct.

Human looking aliens I have always been skeptical because they were part of the disinformation program, but I have faith in the face on mars. So I am beginning to think that humans were from a very distant part of space, and they may have colonized mars and earth in the distant past. Or the ancient Atlanteans had space travel and colonized mars. Ancient aliens has helped us to know there was a fantastic story in history we are unaware of.



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by greyer
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Hey thanks cornucopia, I am one of the individuals who has been let known that they exist. Certainly some of the forum wanderers like me know that the way the aliens reveal themselves is so much different than the knowledge of any human being, it has to be correct.

Human looking aliens I have always been skeptical because they were part of the disinformation program, but I have faith in the face on mars. So I am beginning to think that humans were from a very distant part of space, and they may have colonized mars and earth in the distant past. Or the ancient Atlanteans had space travel and colonized mars. Ancient aliens has helped us to know there was a fantastic story in history we are unaware of.





hi greyer


hugs

yeah, good stuff..

i love that ancient aliens show, well most of them..some were negative which i could not watch, but most were very inspiring and informative


maybe this video will spark your memory


www.youtube.com...




posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by cornucopia

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
I do hope that message of no nukes being let off ever again on Earth is being relayed to Iran and North Korea. They seem so keen to let one off in the not too distant future.


higher powers will not let that happen..


i have no doubt in this


How can you be so sure? They let Fukushima happen, a year and a half ago, and it is still happening.



posted on Dec, 15 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by KaiserSoze

Originally posted by cornucopia

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
I do hope that message of no nukes being let off ever again on Earth is being relayed to Iran and North Korea. They seem so keen to let one off in the not too distant future.


higher powers will not let that happen..


i have no doubt in this


How can you be so sure? They let Fukushima happen, a year and a half ago, and it is still happening.


that is different, that is our problem, it's going so that we may choose a different power source as nuclear technology is not healthy or effecient for life on this world.

i'm sure our cosmic brothers and sisters are watching it and will not allow it to ruin this world, but it is our responsibility to fix the situation so we may learn/change...


now if there were nuclear weapons going to be detonated somewhere that would not be allowed


they can read our thoughts, they know who and where the weapons are and a human could not sneak anything..lol



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 12:36 AM
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The era of the 50s in particular seems to be inundated with accounts of humanoid extraterrestrials from Venus. This is unique because, unlike the association of Zeta Reticuli with the Greys in modern day, these accounts all claim the visitors introduced themselves as of being from Venus. In fact, I don't think there is a more consistent portrayal of extraterrestrials than the humanoids from Venus that the 1950s has given us.

Could it be that it all stemmed from one account, true or not, and then others just reiterated the same figures but in different circumstances? I'm curious because since then we've had barely any accounts of this 'type', much less to the extent they were first being reported on. We seem to go through decades and periods where one image of extraterrestrials dominates the reports and thus public perception of what constitutes as alien. I believe sceptics were amongst the first to notice this pattern, and offered it to mean that many people merely adopt cultural representations of aliens. For example, there seems to be a spike in reports of robotic, or android-like, figures in encounters of the third kind during the 80s. Now, its either greys or reptilians. This is an issue that needs serious discussion here.

On the actual video here, Valiant Thor is described to be residing on his spacecraft, named Victor One, and the gentlemen being interviewed goes in quite some detail about the location of this craft. Considering the book was published decades ago, surely someone near this area has been tempted to explore it to verify his claims?



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by cornucopia
nuclear weapons shall no longer be used









posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 03:16 AM
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Originally posted by greyer
reply to post by cornucopia
 


Hey thanks cornucopia, I am one of the individuals who has been let known that they exist. Certainly some of the forum wanderers like me know that the way the aliens reveal themselves is so much different than the knowledge of any human being, it has to be correct.

Human looking aliens I have always been skeptical because they were part of the disinformation program, but I have faith in the face on mars. So I am beginning to think that humans were from a very distant part of space, and they may have colonized mars and earth in the distant past. Or the ancient Atlanteans had space travel and colonized mars. Ancient aliens has helped us to know there was a fantastic story in history we are unaware of.








www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

On February 20, 1954, a delegation of ‘human looking’ extraterrestrial races met with the Eisenhower administration in an unsuccessful effort to reach an agreement on the US’s thermonuclear nuclear weapons program. [52] The apparent stumbling block was that these extraterrestrial races were not willing to provide technology that might be used by the military-industrial interests that dominated the Eisenhower administration and set the tone for subsequent extraterrestrial – human dialogue.

The principled opposition of this group of extraterrestrials to being co-opted into an emerging military-industrial-extraterrestrial complex (MIEC) marks an important indicator of a large grouping of ‘human’ extraterrestrial races who lie outside of the web of interlocking interests that make up the MIEC in the US and elsewhere on the planet.

This second group of extraterrestrials is primarily ‘human’ and can easily integrate with human society in the manner described by Dean and others where they can be indistinguishable from the rest of humanity. [53] These races are described to be from star systems such as Lyra, Pleiades, Sirius, Procyon, Tau Ceti, Ummo, Andromeda and Arcturus who have provided some of the genetic material for the seeding of humanity on Earth. [54] According to Alex Collier, a total of 22 extraterrestrial races have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment’.

books.google.dk... BDc&hl=da&sa=X&ei=ke0bT8nYH7H64QTBmazkDQ&ved=0CG0Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Native%20indians%20Vega%20star%20system&f=false According to Cherokee indians Pleiadian star people came to Atlantis in ancient times, intermingled with Earth inhabitants, and having children with the beginnings of higher consiousness.

www.abovetopsecret.com... www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Collaborative research from a gathering of exo-scientists postulate that there are genes from over 20 extraterrestrials civilizations in Human DNA

Over 20 extreterrestrial civilizations in Human DNA which corroborates with what Andromedan contactee Alex Collier says about the 22 extraterrestrial races who have provided genetic material for the ‘human experiment’.

The Pleiadians reportedly travel in a "Split Second" between the wast distances in space, for example from the Pleiades to this starsystem at a distance of about 420 light years, or much larger distances, they also reportedly even travel between galaxies,

From about 05:20 into that above clip 'Pleiadian contactee' Billy Meier was reportedly invited aboard a huge Pleiadian spaceship and reportedly travelled to another star system in another galaxy to show him how a "World War 3" would look like in another planet, Billy Meier reportedly looked at a sort of a "screen" in the spaceship that shows the planet's problems which was similar problems as on Earth, one Government against another Government that had just declared a "WW3" against each other, they reportedly launched giant "nuclear" missiles against each other, Billy watched that on the "screen' and was reportedly shocked to witnessed that "WW3", Billy reportedly 'asked' why the Pleiadians did not interfer and stop that war, a Pleiadian then reportedly 'told' Billy that Pleiadians do not interfere, but that another "extraterrestrial race" reportedly does interfere and stop the war in time before those people totally destroyed each other. Billy also reportedly witnessed a "runaway missile" that got off track from that planet, and the Pleiadian spaceship reportedly neutralized the "runaway missile".

From about 07:30 into the above lecture Alex Collier explain about the "Space highways" as Earth-scientists call wormholes, Alex explains that the Andromedans are able to travel in a "Split Second" between wast distances in space whenever they travel from star to star or from galaxy to galaxy.
So it seems that Pleiadians as well as Andromedans travel in a "Split Second" between wast distances in space.
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by greyer
So I am beginning to think that humans were from a very distant part of space, and they may have colonized mars and earth in the distant past.
Or the ancient Atlanteans had space travel and colonized mars. Ancient aliens has helped us to know there was a fantastic story in history we are unaware of.

www.alexcollier.org...

Mars has had a past very, very similar to Earth. It has had a history of colonization and life. Mars was the first explored and colonized planet in our solar system according to Moraney, one of the Andromedans. Now as the ET’s were coming in to our system they stopped at Mars first. Mars had an ocean, it had atmosphere. It was also in a very different place to where it is now. It had plant life and some very, very basic lifeforms. These lifeforms didn’t solely evolve on the planet, but were brought to Mars and the Earth 809 million years ago by traders, explorers, and miners. They came from Alpha Draconis, Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Lyra, Pleiades, Zeta Reticuli, and Sirius. Predominantly those groups. There have been some others that have passed through here, but those groups have predominantly really worked our solar system. For minerals, ores, biological samples, all kinds of different things. And every time they came, they always left something behind. Whether it was a plant, or an animal or something. Some of the lifeforms that have been and will be discovered on Mars are exactly identical to lifeforms we have here on Earth.

www.phils.com.au...

While world's leading space agencies are trying to find traces of life on planet Mars, eight-year-old Boriska tells his parents and friends everything he knows about the Martian civilisation. Boriska remembers his past life. Specialists say that he knows the information, which he actually cannot know. A Russian journalist has recently talked to the boy about his unique knowledge and experience. - Boriska, did you really live on Mars as people say around here? - Yes, I did, it is true. I remember that time, when I was 14 or 15 years old. The Martians were waging wars all the time so I would often have to participate in air raids with a friend of mine. We could travel in time and space flying in round spaceships, but we would observe life on planet Earth on triangular aircrafts. Martian spaceships are very complicated. They are layered, and they can fly all across the Universe. - Is there life on Mars now? - Yes, there is, but the planet lost its atmosphere many years ago as a result of a global catastrophe. But Martian people still live there under the ground. They breath carbonic gas. - How do they look those Martian people? - Oh they are very tall, taller than seven meters. They possess incredible qualities.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Atlantis formed 10 ruling districts, each with their own king. These kings together formed the governing council of Atlantis.- The royal governing council of Atlantis decide that a new form of government was desperately needed in which a superior ruling class could be established and sustained by their pretense that they had been empowered by a God-Force. Autocracy was thus born and was in full control enforcing a period of peace and stability. To achieve control over the populace, they started experiment with the people's DNA and genetics . This resulted in the peoples consciousness being reduced, life spans contracted and psychic/spiritual abilities dramatically decreasing.

Throughout the years there were many wars among the various empires due to underground movements of people that wanted to have the Lemurian "philosophy" back in place (i.e. no hierarchy). These wars led to vast destruction. As a last resort the warring empires decided to attack the opponents crystal temples (which were responsible for maintaining two frozen layers of water about 15,000 - 30,000 feet above ground which protected people on Earth from the harmful sun's rays and also ensured a stable weather pattern at all times)

Unfortunately, the attacks were made simultaneously and caused the Firmament (the water layers) to be broken down and thus millions of gallons of water thus poured down onto the surface causing what is known biblically as "The Great Flood" .The breakdown of the Firmament also resulted in the polar icecaps freezing and also the many climatic variations we have today to form.

- Only about 2 million people survived the Flood from an original 65 known million. Unfortunately many of the survivors were the mutant humans that had been genetically altered by the Atlanteans into a much lower state of consciousness. Also, the fact that the firmament was now no longer in existence resulted in the DNA and thus consciousness breaking down even further. A few different renegades from Pleides, Alpha and Beta Centauri came to different places on Earth after the Flood, seeing it as an opportune time to establish their own desired ideologies and also be seen as "godlike" and thus reverenced. Being already genetically altered, the surviving humans were therefore easily controlled by these renegades.

- Since no form of disobedience to these new "gods" was allowed, the concept of ruling by "divine right" became inculcated on Earth. This concept of worshipping an elite has continued through to modern times. Culture would rise against culture in wars claiming that the elite they themselves worshipped were superior to the elite of the opposing faction.

- We are now in times, though, that will finally bring to an end an approximate 10,000 years of "semi-consciousness" and regain our full consciousness that we deserve. This will be due to our entire solar system coming into contact with what is known as the "Photon Belt"

MESSAGES COMING FROM THE FEDERATION ON LEMURIA
Translated by Sheldon Nidel

"You were mutated into limited conscious Beings and your cluster of realities was also affected. Suddenly, a new paradigm was adopted that favored lack, limitation, power and division. You lost your connection to your history and to a sacred set of beliefs, which the Anunnaki and their carefully chosen minions replaced with a new conception. As a result, they ruled you as your 'gods' and 'goddesses'. They brainwashed you to believe that they were your 'creators' and that the past wonders of Lemuria and Atlantis were myths. They ordered their minions to institute 'writing' as an agent of their own glorification. These acts are recorded in the ancient tablets of Sumer, in the steles of ancient India and in carvings found throughout Europe, Australia, Oceania, Asia and the Americas. Now, as your consciousness expands more quickly, you are coming to see these tales for the elaborate fiction they truly are.

Your origins are not of this world, but are extraterrestrial in nature, and are to be found on a planet that circles the star Vega in the Lyra constellation. Yet, you have achieved more than to travel a mere 26 Light Years to reach your present home. Many millions of years ago, you became part of a vast rebellion by the Light against the dark in this galaxy. The uprising began in Lyra, Cancer, Gemini and Orion, as well as in many other lesser-known star groupings ('constellations'). Eventually, this rebellion led to the formation of the Galactic Federation of Light, over 4 million years ago. At the very core of this battle were the Star League of the Pleiades, the Andromedan Confederation, the Lyra Light League and the Sirian star-nation. Of these, Sirius is most sacred and the place where the Great Blue Lodge of Creation has chosen to enter this galaxy. Originally, it was defended by a Lion people who decided to settle only on two planets in the Sirius A star system. Later, with their permission, Humans from Lyra were first to colonize Sirius B and, in time, Sirius C and D.
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Shino
The era of the 50s in particular seems to be inundated with accounts of humanoid extraterrestrials from Venus. This is unique because, unlike the association of Zeta Reticuli with the Greys in modern day, these accounts all claim the visitors introduced themselves as of being from Venus. In fact, I don't think there is a more consistent portrayal of extraterrestrials than the humanoids from Venus that the 1950s has given us.

Could it be that it all stemmed from one account, true or not, and then others just reiterated the same figures but in different circumstances? I'm curious because since then we've had barely any accounts of this 'type', much less to the extent they were first being reported on. We seem to go through decades and periods where one image of extraterrestrials dominates the reports and thus public perception of what constitutes as alien. I believe sceptics were amongst the first to notice this pattern, and offered it to mean that many people merely adopt cultural representations of aliens. For example, there seems to be a spike in reports of robotic, or android-like, figures in encounters of the third kind during the 80s. Now, its either greys or reptilians. This is an issue that needs serious discussion here.

On the actual video here, Valiant Thor is described to be residing on his spacecraft, named Victor One, and the gentlemen being interviewed goes in quite some detail about the location of this craft. Considering the book was published decades ago, surely someone near this area has been tempted to explore it to verify his claims?


hi,

there are many species of life out there, but yes there are some main type species..

Humans..

Greys..

Reptile like...

Mantis...

Feline...

Orb/Spirit/Energy/Consciousness...



we are all family of course, umm...i could go into details..

i ask anyone to use their intuition on this subject and ask yourself next time you are going to sleep for the anwsers.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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You are referring to complete disinformation.



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by greyer
You are referring to complete disinformation.

Nope. I am not a disinfo agent. I think you misunderstand what disinformation is. Let me show you an example of disinformation olive-drab.com...

This photo was taken at the NASA Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base, California on 6 May 1960 as part of an elaborate effort by the CIA to cover-up the true nature of the U-2 spy plane program. On 1 May 1960 CIA pilot Francis Gary Powers was shot down over the Soviet Union during a spy flight. Cooperating with the CIA, NASA issued a press release with a cover story about a U-2 conducting weather research that may have strayed off course after the pilot "reported difficulties with his oxygen equipment." This photo shows a U-2 that was quickly painted in NASA markings, with a fictitious NASA serial number, and put on display for the news media at the Edwards NASA facility.

In reality, up to that time no U-2 was ever used by NASA. Unfortunately, Powers was captured by the Soviet Union and espionage equipment was recovered from the wreckage. Soviet Premier Nikita Khruschev exposed the cover-up and made much propaganda use of the American deception.

The upper section of this image is the black & white photo while the lower section has NASA logos in color and the wording: "Dryden Flight Center E-5442 Photographed 6MAY1960 / U-2 with fictitious NASA markings to support cover story for CIA / pilot Gary Powers, shot down over Soviet Union May 1 (NASA Photo)".

The US Shadow Government made the disinformation by trying to convince the American public that the U-2 was used by NASA conducting weather research, when fact shows that in reality the U-2 was NEVER used by NASA.

Let me show you another disinformation. www.presidentialufo.com... President Bill Clinton did not buy the weather balloon explanation for the Roswell incident in 1947, and he was not satisfied about that the air force did not deal with the many claims by Roswell witnesses about the alien bodies, so he ordered his own administration to investigate it. The US Shadow Government then ordered the air force to create disinformation by trying to convince the public that what the Roswell witnesses saw was not 4 feet tall alien bodies, but 6 feet tall mannequin looking anthropomorphic test dummies used for parachute tests. The problem with that explanation is that these test dummies were in fact first used first time in 1953 and not in 1947. So the US Shadow Government was caught on lying, and thereby "shot themselves in their foot" with that dummy explanation. And not only that. The US Shadow Government even changed their disinformation to another disinformation by admitting that it was not weather balloon that crashed at Roswell, but instead changed it to Operation Skyhook Mogul Balloon Train used for listening to Soviet nuclear bomb tests. But researchers have debunked the Mogul Balloon Train since. Beside, the US military used a WB-29 airplane to detect Soviet nuclear bomb tests, and they used Alaska to operate from there, not from Roswell.

Another thing, www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

PUBLIC INFORMATION, DISINFORMATION

The Caretaker: “In order to protect all this information and the fact that the United States Government has evidence of our planet being visited by extraterrestrials, we developed over the years a very effective program to safeguard the information. We call it ‘Project DOVE.’ It is a complex series of operations by our military intelligence agencies to disinform the public."

And as you can see for yourself, the US Shadow Government is dum enough to show the lie story about the test dummies, weather balloon lie story then later changed it to Mogul Balloon Train lie story, and even a U-2 NASA conducting weahter research lie story as well. Not a smart move by the US Shadow Government...
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by greyer
Human looking aliens I have always been skeptical because they were part of the disinformation program, but I have faith in the face on mars.

When you say that Human looking aliens were part of the disinformation program, then what do you mean by that? Do you have any source / link to show what you mean?

It is correct that 'Pleiadian contactee' Billy Meier was reportedly victim for Shadow Government agents / disinfo agents who reportedly tried to discredit Billy Meier and reportedly even tried to get rid of him www.crystalinks.com...

Meier claimed the visitors charged him with certain informational and consciousness-raising tasks As he undertook this mission, he met with a great deal of scorn and ASSASSINATION attempts. Some of these were allegedly initiated by hostile extraterrestrial entities and subsequently defeated largely through the intervention of his Plejaren friends.

Some of the most important evidence for Meier's claims come from his large collection of controversial photographs. These include images of alleged spacecraft in the Swiss countryside, the Apollo-Soyuz 1975 docking and distant astronomical phenomena. Supporters insist that the images are exceptionally high quality and that a one-armed man could not possibly have fabricated them.

Critics such as Stanton Friedman and Jacques VallŽe believe them to be fakes. Some critics have provided examples of similar faked photos and have pointed out that some of his photos are taken from science fiction books, paintings and television programs.

Meier claims that these (faked) photos were altered by intelligence agencies and slipped into his collection in order to DISCREDIT his UFO testimony.

The metal alloy samples are said to have been given to Meier by the Plejarens and then passed on to Wendelle Stevens who then had them tested by chemist Marcel Vogel. Vogel said that in his view the samples could not have been made by means of contemporary earthly metallurgy as they were apparently produced via cold fusion. Vogel also stated that the metal vanished from the IBM laboratory not long after his work was completed which PREVENTED other scientists from performing their own analyses on it.

Here is a long list of countries that have partially or fully disclosed UFO sightings and extraterrestrial encounters www.educatinghumanity.com... But, the United States is still not mentioned on that list...

exopolitics.org...

The strategies for dealing with those former servicemen, corporate employees or witnesses brave or ‘foolish’ enough to come forward to reveal classified information is to intimidate, silence, eliminate or discredit these individuals. This policy involves such strategies as removing all public records of former military service men or corporate employees, forcing individuals to make retractions, deliberately distorting statements of individuals, or discrediting individuals.


From about 7:15 into the above documentary about the "Roswell alien debris" Dr. Roger Leir mentioned that an international UFO press conference about "alien debris" was cancelled, and that some Shadow Government agent looking dudes came and forced a UFO press conference participant into their car, saying >>Early that morning two gentlemen in suits came into his office and asked him to please company them, they took him and put him in a van, drove him around San Francisco Bay area for 11 hours and told him [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjQgqZ6eMP4]>>There is no international UFO press conference



posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Anunaki10
When you say that Human looking aliens were part of the disinformation program, then what do you mean by that? Do you have any source / link to show what you mean?


It was a large program, it would take me a while to debunk the US alien disinformation program, but I am not even pro disclosure so there is not much of a point to it. Here is one link. Remember any psychological program developed by the government is well thought out and takes an educated person well familiar with the subject to cumulate all of the discrepancies and journey down the correct path to reveal the truth.

mysteriousuniverse.org...

The reason for human looking aliens to appear in the media during the 50s and include them in a probable 100 year gradual release program of disclosure to the public is because that some of the high military men who witnessed the aliens who crashed at Roswell could not deal with it psychologically, it was too much for them to handle, so if it was too much for them to handle they knew the general population could not handle it.

There were many different types of human aliens claiming to be from Sirius or Pleiades with insignia on their uniforms seen walking around in grey underground alien bases. If you can imagine that humans can produce holograms, greys can produce 'physical' hallucinations all that much better. It has been reported that greys shapeshift and also these human looking aliens have vertical slit pupils as the greys and reptilians.

Besides the fact anybody who claimed human looking aliens looked like they were either crazy or like they were lying. They would give outlandish claims and expect people to believe while grinning. We need to also take into account psychology and motivation with what these individuals are saying. Abductees end up having a strange experience like they have seen a ghost, it shockingly disturbs them and they do not tell anybody. The only way abductees eventually found out is because they seeked professional support, not because they wanted attention.
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by greyer
Abductees end up having a strange experience like they have seen a ghost, it shockingly disturbs them and they do not tell anybody. The only way abductees eventually found out is because they seeked professional support, not because they wanted attention.

What abduction case are you talking about? Or is it just based on your own imagination?

How about these abduction cases below (just some of several many alien abduction cases)


There is no ghost here. I think you're the one who spread disinformation here right now...

Seems you prefer to overlook my post "reply posted on 16-12-2012 @ 03:16 AM by Anunaki10" Page 2 this thread were i posted this

The above clip shows that the alien implants are concluded to be of Extraterrestrial origin by some of the best experts in the world.


Alien implants, gotcha... www.alienscalpel.com...

Dr. Roger Leir and his surgical team have performed 14 surgeries on alleged alien abductees, resulting in the removal of 15 objects suspected of being alien implants. These objects have been scrutinized by some of the most prestigious laboratories in the world: Los Alamos National Labs, Seal Laboratories, the University of Toronto, and the University of California-San Diego. Their findings have been baffling and some comparisons have been made to meteorite samples. In addition, several tests show metallurgical anomalies such as highly magnetic iron, combinations of crystalline materials with common metals, as well as isotopic ratios not of this world. Dr. Leir has traveled to Brazil and performed exhaustive research into the Varginha, Brazil case. He has recently formed a 501(C) 3 non-profit organization for this purpose called A & S Research Inc.


'Greyer', you are doing a bad job trying to discredit these cases...
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by greyer
It was a large program, it would take me a while to debunk the US alien disinformation program, but I am not even pro disclosure so there is not much of a point to it. Here is one link. Remember any psychological program developed by the government is well thought out and takes an educated person well familiar with the subject to cumulate all of the discrepancies and journey down the correct path to reveal the truth.

mysteriousuniverse.org...

This does not disprove the Extraterrestrial visitation cases. That link you provided can not be taken seriously...


The reason for human looking aliens to appear in the media during the 50s and include them in a probable 100 year gradual release program of disclosure to the public is because that some of the high military men who witnessed the aliens who crashed at Roswell could not deal with it psychologically, it was too much for them to handle, so if it was too much for them to handle they knew the general population could not handle it.

This does not disprove these Extraterrestrial visitation cases either...


There were many different types of human aliens claiming to be from Sirius or Pleiades with insignia on their uniforms seen walking around in grey underground alien bases. If you can imagine that humans can produce holograms, greys can produce 'physical' hallucinations all that much better.

Any source / link to support what you are saying here? Or is it just another imagination of yours?


Besides the fact anybody who claimed human looking aliens looked like they were either crazy or like they were lying. They would give outlandish claims and expect people to believe while grinning.

Hmm, seems this is just another pathetic attempt to discredit the Extraterrestrial visitation cases...


It has been reported that greys shapeshift and also these human looking aliens have vertical slit pupils as the greys and reptilians.

That sounds interesting, but again, you need to provide source / link to support your "greys shapeshift"-claim as well as your "greys have vertical slit pupils"-claim. There are links that describe Reptilian shapeshifting... But, you need to provide link that support your "greys shapeshift"-claim as well as your "greys have vertical slit pupils"-claim... Are you able to do that? Or is it just your own imagination again?
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posted on Dec, 16 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by cornucopia
"The landing of Valiant Thor was perhaps the first documented landing of a human-type alien by military officials. He met with President Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon for an hour, then the alien was put on VIP status and shuttled back to the Pentagon." --Harley Byrd, Project Blue Book, United States Air Force
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STRANGER AT THE PENTAGON is inspired by True Events from the book of the same name. It was first published in 1967.

Valiant Thor, A Created Being (Angel in human form), lands on Earth on March 16th, 1957, and lives at the Pentagon for 3 years under the Eisenhower Administration.
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When something smells, as this subject does, one does not promote it. I don't know why you decided to do so in light of the fact that Frank E Stranges is one of UFOlogy biggest jokes. However, I did not know that he had died in 2008.

I lived in the San Fernando Valley in the '80s and was a regular attendee at his UFO-oriented lectures. Then, I attended a lecture by Harley Byrd who claimed to be a descendant of Admiral Byrd which is questionable. During the lecture he used a large board with topic information and names and I stood up when he made a statement that I recognized as false. Mr Byrd stood still at a loss for words and looked at Mr Stranges for guidance. The room also erupted in low comments, looking at me. Stranges called some men over to him and I could hear them asking themselves if I was a "spy", etc.

After a few moments they approached me and asked me go with them and I was escorted outside. A funny thing happened as I was near the entrance to the hall. I had attended the lecture free after securing an admission coupon from a newpaper or publication. Everybody else paid $5. As I was near the entrance the lady taking the $5 fee held out a $5 bill to grab as I walked past her!

Outside in the parking lot, while gathering my thoughts before I got in my car, I was approached by a woman who identified herself as a reporter for a Valley newspaper and did a mini-interview. The next day she and someone else visited me and did a longer interview then we left and went to Mulholland Drive where the other person, a stafff photographer, took pictures of me. The edition of the paper had a magazine section and I was on the full cover.

In a previous lecture I took a photo of Stranges and his "young" wife. I considered him and his tales a joke and I'm not alone in that opinion. Some people in UFOlogy profit and get famous even though they did not contribute anything worthwhile except some amusement. He was the perfect example.



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i know that ALL souls are from Source and we are Source


How do you know that?.......do you really know it....or do you think it?......there's a big difference!



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posted on Dec, 17 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Thanks... I was horrified here recently to discover the U.S. had actually detonated BIG nuclear weapons in space. For some odd reason, I'd never heard about it and certainly hadn't heard the sizes and altitudes. We're not talking high altitude. We're talking a couple hundred miles up. True space and Megaton range weapons. Those lunatics sent those nuclear shock waves and pulses right out into open space.
I figure it rang a few bells.


It also knocked out the power out in parts of Hawaii. Thats how we figured out EMP blasts. Heard about this just today, can't remember where tho.





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