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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar
reply to post by longlostbrother
 


There isn't a verifiable source for the Hilary Clinton one the OP picked out either. In fact of the ones picked out by the OP how many actually have independently verifiable providence?



Jeez.... pathetic.

I have tried to go through this list in the past and had a hard time verifying anything...

People want to believe what suits their ideology, Never mind if that makes them the biggest "sheeple" on the internet.




posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...

So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it??

Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things?

You tell me.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by VelvetSplash

Guys, look at your sources, try to corroborate them, and most of all when making a thread put some thought in to it and make sure you're not just cut and pasting some trash from a 14 year old's blog.


Exceptional words of guidance if this is true



Originally posted by jude11
Some truly eye opening statements from World Leaders, Military, Professors and Corporate heads. All laying out the plan of a New World Order in the works as more of us are becoming aware of only today.

So Jude, Don't be afraid. Come clean. Did you post Hoax-porn???


Our friend VelvetSplash, raises honorable questions and I feel compelled to align myself with the chosen ones who have cast a mighty shadow on your false and misleading statements.


However, in fairnes, what do YOU have to say for yourself, Jude?? (you were made to make it better...) LMAO!!



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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reply to post by ItDepends
 
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.

There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
 
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.

There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.



Yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is being paid by the government. Blah blah blah.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
 
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.

There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.



Oh wise one. Understand, I 'eat' nothing before it has been tested and tasted by the believers in this cr$$p.

"There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here."

No Sh$t!!, I am not amused by the worthless words posted by the doom-porns. You on the other hand, help us, assist us in sifting through this maze of Horsesh$t. We are indebted to you for helping us who less adept on some of this subject matter, and only come here to learn and expand our knowledge.

You have provided information that helps us all. Many Thanks :



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
 
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.

There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.



Yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is being paid by the government. Blah blah blah.


Hmm, Happy1? Our brother Longlostbrother, does raise a valid observation. Conspiracy? We don't sign up for your subscription and we are labeled "useless eater" s?:


Very good brother Longlostbrother: Much misinformation being posted by trolls. Who are we to believe?
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by ItDepends

Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by ItDepends
 
Don't be just another "useless eater", open your eyes, look into the UN, and make your own judgement.

There's a lot of disinfo paid people posting here.



Yes yes, anyone that disagrees with you is being paid by the government. Blah blah blah.


Hmm, Happy1? Our brother Longlostbrother, does raise a valid observation. Conspiracy? We don't sign up for your subscription and we are labeled "useless eater" s?:


Very good brother Longlostbrother: Much misinformation being posted by trolls. Who are we to believe?
edit on 11-12-2012 by ItDepends because: (no reason given)


Believe what you can prove to be true, at least to the best of your ability.

It took me, the first time I saw this list, about 2 mins to realise it was BS. That's NOT a great effort.

The most important question in THIS case is:

Why is someone making up quotes like this? What's THEIR goal?

If you google any of these quotes you will find the SAME article copy and pasted on NUMEROUS right-wing blogs... when I see lies repeated by numerous people, all of the same political persuasion I speculate it might be political propaganda.

Considering that ONE party has made a lot of political hay out of "hating the governement" and "fearing the UN"... well... you have to ask is that list just another piece of party political propaganda?

I don't know, but that appears to ME to be the most likely explanation.

Take it one speculative step further:

This isn't aimed at liberals, is it?

This is aimed at right-wingers. So what does THAT say about the propagandists on the right?

Well, if you're willing to make all of those leaps with me, you might also take one final jump:

Right-wing propagandists KNOW their supporters don't fact check, are gullible, and blindly spread propaganda.

Makes the whole Birther thing a lot more --- understandable --- they assume people will just trust lies without fact checking them... and this thread proves them right.

Everyone is so busy congratulating each other for out-witting the NWO they forgot to see if they were putting their faith in baloney.

Whoops.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Longlostbrother:

Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.


Wow! Such a quick innane, but laughable response! The fact that you say a whole lot of nothing with so few words makes you quite irrelevant and unworthy of even this small piece of attention. Begone fool, and be forever lost!



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by elysiumfire
Longlostbrother:

Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.


Wow! Such a quick innane, but laughable response! The fact that you say a whole lot of nothing with so few words makes you quite irrelevant and unworthy of even this small piece of attention. Begone fool, and be forever lost!


Nice dodge. Can't answer the question, can you?

If tactics ALONE, as you state, make a message or goal invalid, what does it say about the anti-NWO movement, when it's members lie through their teeth?

Go on.

Answer the question.

And try and do it with out reverting to your most base instincts this time.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother

Believe what you can prove to be true, at least to the best of your ability.


Originally posted by longlostbrother

The most important question in THIS case is:

Why is someone making up quotes like this? What's THEIR goal?


Very good, logical question longllost brother!! What is THEIR goal?


quote]Originally posted by longlostbrother
Right-wing propagandists KNOW their supporters don't fact check, are gullible, and blindly spread propaganda


STRONG accusation, I am listening......where's the beef?
Just a question, not an accusation!


Then our brother suggests:


Originally posted by elysiumfire
Longlostbrother:

Hilarious that you should say that, considering this thread is based on lies written by anti-NWO folks...So I guess that means we SHOULD want a NWO since anti-NWO people are willing to lie to stop it? Or maybe tactics and outcomes are two separate things? You tell me.


Wow! Such a quick innane, but laughable response! The fact that you say a whole lot of nothing with so few words makes you quite irrelevant and unworthy of even this small piece of attention. Begone fool, and be forever lost!


Hmmm, differing viewpoints!!
How do we reconcile this??


Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by elysiumfire


Nice dodge. Can't answer the question, can you?

If tactics ALONE, as you state, make a message or goal invalid, what does it say about the anti-NWO movement, when it's members lie through their teeth?

Go on.

Answer the question.

And try and do it with out reverting to your most base instincts this time.


Dems fighting words:


Dare I declare a challenge here???
Where do we go from here? Back to the U.N.? RLMFAO!:
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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I tried to be very careful and label it only as supposition.

I would say that there's a LOT of BS from the anti-NWO side. If you want to check if that's true, look in the Hoax Bin.

So, why?

Do you have any guesses?

Who created these lies and why?

Love to know your theories.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by jacobe001
 





"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." —from The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski 1997


This quote has been taken out of context. How do I know? Because I actually read the book unlike yourself. It argues for a scaling back of overseas military expenditures and moves towards a more strategic and diplomatic approach. Part of the reason for this strategic vision is that the US is essentially a democratic state (whether it is or not is for you to decide) and sustained conflicts involving many casualties are as such difficult or even impossible to carry out. Please actually read the book before you misquote it and take it out of context like a badgering idiot next time.


Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.

Or are you using this in an attempt to perpetuate ignorance rather than deny it?

Fair warning...you will lose in this case.

Peace



edit on 10-12-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)


what? ...he pointed out your ignorance, and now with that strange comeback, i tend to think that you might want to perpetuate your own.



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by jacobe001
 





"It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." —from The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski 1997


This quote has been taken out of context. How do I know? Because I actually read the book unlike yourself. It argues for a scaling back of overseas military expenditures and moves towards a more strategic and diplomatic approach. Part of the reason for this strategic vision is that the US is essentially a democratic state (whether it is or not is for you to decide) and sustained conflicts involving many casualties are as such difficult or even impossible to carry out. Please actually read the book before you misquote it and take it out of context like a badgering idiot next time.


Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.

Or are you using this in an attempt to perpetuate ignorance rather than deny it?

Fair warning...you will lose in this case.

Peace



edit on 10-12-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)


what? ...he pointed out your ignorance, and now with that strange comeback, i tend to think that you might want to perpetuate your own.


You've just experienced another great example of people becoming irrational when their ideology is questioned.

This thread has now highlighted the fact that several of the quotes are either fabrications or are taken out of context to prove points the original person making the statement didn't intend.

But does anyone on this thread think that the people who were so eager to latch onto these lies will now go and look inward, and ask themselves why they are so gullible and eager to believe convenient lies?

If you REALLY want to "deny ignorance" spend a day going through the Hoax bin.
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by ItDepends
 

I tried to be very careful and label it only as supposition.
So, why?
Do you have any guesses?
Who created these lies and why?
Love to know your theories.

Sure, Ok, you've stated your case...very eloquently I may add...

So, after our recent discussions with brother elysiumfire, I went back through the thread, just to recapitulate my understanding of what the OP really, really said.....ok so far???


Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by Unity_99
Alot here. By their words they are convicted and the conspiracies are proved.
It's all there in black and white isn't it?
(/quote]
HMMMM, That simple is it??? I don't think so!!!!

Originally posted by jude11
Thought about putting this in the OP but just knew someone would bring it forth.

Please address the other 138 quotes instead of focusing on one that may or may not be true.


Oh nothing here to see.....move along....nothing here to see! BS!!!



Originally posted by jude11

Sorry but in my inexperienced position on ATS, maybe I'm wrong?


Oh we have some humility do we???? Well isn't that nice. WTF are you talking about then???



Originally posted by jude11
Is my math wrong?


Holy Crap Batman, now you're asking that question???? WTF????



Originally posted by jude11

If one third of the 139 quotes should be treated as unverifiable, doesn't that leave 92.66 remaining quotes?



Originally posted by jude11
If we look at even just half of these quotes as correct...it's enough.


Ummmm, "Price check please" we have a major discrepency. Sorry, no, I am not going to buy it. Full of S$$T!!!


SOOOOOOOO, my Longlostbrother, after reading the facts, and some personal investigation, Your persuasive arguments or should I say, civil debate, has placed me fully in your corner!!!!
This thread is HOAX-PORN and should be shut down immediately.
I call upon the mods to just look at my quick recap and that should be enough to shut this down as fraud and a waste any further intellectual conversation.


Any of the hard headed, stuck in the mud, psuedo-intellectuals who wish to continue this fraud, Lovely for you.


As for me, I am outta here!!!!! Peace and Love!!! To All



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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longlost...this thread started sounding strange from the very beginning. as soon as i went to research these supposed quotes, i dismissed most of them. throw in a little truth with a lot of BS, and anything can sound evil and apocalyptic



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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Nothing better than being on the side of actual truth and facts my friend. Truly enlightened folks are those that follow facts, not ideology. The downside is that it's a harder life, always demanding proof, never assuming that something you'd love to be true IS true, because of your bias. But if you want more than cold comfort, it's the only way forward.

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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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Totally agree.

A good rule or method of determining if something is suspicious is to search the internet for a suspicious quote. If you find the same exact document on dozens of conspiracy or ideologically similar blogs, then be suspicious.

Blogs are often just the "chain letters" of our times - full of BS tracts designed to create a specific outcome, but masquerading as purveyors of "hidden truth".



posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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FTR: As far as I can tell, most of this crap came from here:

www.fatimamovement.com...

That place is FULL of total #e like the Protocol of the Eleders of Zion, etc.

So there you go... figure out who runs that and you'll probably figure out who created those quotes and maybe even their agenda...

That site has been running since at least 1996...

EDIT:

From the contact page:


I must admit that this "Mr. Nobody" movie really bothers me. I've been struggling with the very concept of an all-seeing eye actually watching me since I was a child and making a film about my life, but as crazy as that sounds, this seems to be the power of the occult and their looking glass. I don't know how else they could have assembled this cast of characters which is way too close to reality to be denied, and there are things in this movie that only I would know. I cannot otherwise explain how these things got in the movie. I suppose it is true, as the Illuminati say, that I have been monitored for a number of years now, by the "Source" himself...


I assume now that this person is either mentally ill or some sort of puppet... I can't REALLY imagine why any one would want a puppet to make this site, so... my guess is that the quote everyone was high-fiving over are really just a product of, not a conspiracy, not a political propagandist, but a mentally ill guy...

Be careful folks, who you believe, or else you may find yourself arguing that the crazy delusions of an paranoid delusional are "truth"... an unenviable position...

EDIT 2:

Just realise that this guy is ALSO the guy that started that whole "Nobody" trend on GLP.

Oh man. This must be one of the kings of modern crazy religio-conspiracy BS.

Go see for yourself:

www.fatimamovement.com...
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posted on Dec, 11 2012 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by skuly
reply to post by jude11
 


This one just creepy



18. "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." -- David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations


S&F by the way.
edit on 9/12/2012 by skuly because: adding a little colour


Also total BS:

en.wikipedia.org...





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