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(Reuters) - A psychiatrist who treated accused Colorado theater gunman James Holmes rejected a law enforcement offer to involuntarily confine him for 72 hours after he told her six weeks before the shooting that he fantasized about killing "a lot of people," the Denver Post reported on Wednesday.
Citing an unnamed source, the newspaper said that Holmes made the remark to his therapist, Lynne Fenton, on June 11. But when a University of Colorado police officer asked whether to detain Holmes on a psychiatric hold, Fenton said no.
A psychiatric hold is usually involuntary hospitalization
Originally posted by GrantedBail
The article is citing unnamed sources. Take it as you wish. I for one am a firm believer that Holmes did not act alone. However this appears to confirm earlier reports that Holmes was receiving at least psychological treatment at the school. It is also the first that I read that he failed his oral exams. I believe I read before that he didn't do well. Anyway, would love some ATS opinion on this revelation.
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smartnic wrote:
If everyone who fantasized committing a violent crime was detained, the streets would be empty.
Originally posted by GrantedBail
Therapist declined temporary confinement for accused Colorado gunman: report (Holmes)
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(Reuters) - A psychiatrist who treated accused Colorado theater gunman James Holmes rejected a law enforcement offer to involuntarily confine him for 72 hours after he told her six weeks before the shooting that he fantasized about killing "a lot of people," the Denver Post reported on Wednesday.
Citing an unnamed source, the newspaper said that Holmes made the remark to his therapist, Lynne Fenton, on June 11. But when a University of Colorado police officer asked whether to detain Holmes on a psychiatric hold, Fenton said no.
A psychiatric hold is usually involuntary hospitalization
Originally posted by BrokenCircles
Could that have actually made a difference?
If he had been confined for doing nothing
That's just not a feasible option. It is impossible to accurately draw a definitive 'line' based solely upon opinions and emotions. There would be far too much variance from one person to another.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
[color=BCFFB5]I'd like to think there is a line in there somewhere that reasonable and decent people could generally agree on. There has to be a point before overt action and killing people, where a building threat that is enough to raise questions in peoples minds and among professional ones at that, can be confined.
A blatant violation of an individuals Freedom Of Speech, Civil Liberties, & Human Rights.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
For cops, I understand the 72-hr hold works fine and I know for a fact it's a viable option in that county of Colorado, so what is the harm in that?
He obviously wasn't viewed as being a violent threat, at that time.
Originally posted by ParanoidAmerican
The thing is with a violent threat they likely would have searched his residence and at this point in time he was (allegedly ) gathering the goods to do it. This could have been critical.
Originally posted by CALGARIAN
Originally posted by BrokenCircles
Could that have actually made a difference?
If he had been confined for doing nothing
This is exactly what ATS stands against, yet this thread seems to be bringing up the fact if he WAS then a crime may have not been committed.. Exactly what the GOVT is trying to say.
"he told her six weeks before the shooting that he fantasized about killing "a lot of people," "
What exactly was it that he said to the therapist?
Originally posted by GrantedBail
If someone goes to their therapist and tells them they feel like killing a bunch of people, they get a 72 hour hospital stay to protect others. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm slightly curious:
Originally posted by GrantedBail
It is not Gitmo, it is not suspension of habeas corpus, it is a protective order. Huge [color=DBCF1F]dif.
A psychiatrist who treated accused Colorado theater gunman James Holmes rejected a law enforcement offer to involuntarily confine him for 72 hours after he told her six weeks before the shooting that he fantasized about killing "a lot of people," the Denver Post reported on Wednesday.