posted on Dec, 2 2012 @ 12:47 AM
Originally posted by dmsuse
reply to post by FurvusRexCaeli
It has now been nearly 3 years without trial. I guess you are just as bad as those "enemies".. ... But wait.. These enemies you speak of are the
I was referring to AQI/ISI, the Taliban, and the Al Qaeda network generally. Perhaps you've heard of them? Believe it or not, the effects of
Manning's actions extend beyond the Anglosphere chattering class. In fact, I'd say that class is the least important character in this drama--and
also the most self-important, given its predilection to reduce all those brown people in the Middle East to mere props in some kind of psychodrama
about Bush's foreign policy, lacking agency and even visibility when they are not convenient to the plot. Now, I am not saying you're some kind of
racist, that you evidently think Arabs are so dumb they can't turn on a computer and read WikiLeaks, or that you think the only problems worth
considering are first world problems. There's no evidence of that at all. I'm just pointing out that it's grossly ethnocentric to write Al Qaeda
out of their own war
and recast the whole thing as some kind of conflict between the American government and the American people over the finer
points of ROEs and IHL.
Manning wanted to show the American people (the enemies) what illegal activities his government was doing..
What he (purports he) wanted to do is irrelevant. There is no "my heart was in the right place" defense for espionage. Others have tried (e.g.
Pollard), it doesn't work.
Besides, his indiscriminate document dump was in no way tailored toward allegedly illegal acts. He scooped up everything he could get his hands on and
couldn't possibly have vetted all the material for these "illegal activities" before he released it. This was revenge, pure and simple. He felt
slighted by the military, so he decided to hurt them back. If you believe he was some kind of noble whistleblower, you simply weren't paying
attention to what he did.
The Speedy Trial Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution