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A US Army private facing court-martial on suspicion of leaking secret documents to the WikiLeaks website testified that he was confined to a "cage" in the early days after his arrest in 2010, and thought he would die there. Bradley Manning, in his first public comments since his arrest in Iraq, said his isolation led to a rapid decline in his awareness of his surroundings.
Originally posted by IsawWHATtheyDID
a traitor to whom? allthough he freely enlisted and commited something along the lines of espionage , he did a favor by helping to wake at least a few more people up to whats been going on. unfortunatley when he enlisted , he signed over any and all rights he had as a private citizen , so I dont think the cage is all that bad. my real problem with him is the lady gaga cd he used to leak stuff.
(02:13:51 AM) Lamo: Why does your job afford you access?
(02:13:59 AM) Lamo: except for the UN.
(02:14:03 AM) Manning: because i have a workstation
(02:14:15 AM) Lamo: and World Bank.
(02:14:17 AM) Manning: *had*
(02:14:36 AM) Lamo: So you have these stored now?
(02:14:54 AM) Manning: i had two computers… one connected to SIPRNET the other to JWICS…
(02:15:07 AM) Manning: no, they’re government laptops
(1:40:20 PM) Manning: ive been so isolated so long… i just wanted to be nice, and live a normal life… but events kept forcing me to figure out ways to survive… smart enough to know whats going on, but helpless to do anything… no-one took any notice of me
(1:40:43 PM) Manning: :’(
(1:43:51 PM) Lamo: back
(1:43:59 PM) Manning: im self medicating like crazy when im not toiling in the supply office (my new location, since im being discharged, im not offically intel anymore)
Source - Wired Magazine 06/2010
(03:39:17 PM) Manning: im not a bad person, i keep track of everything
(03:39:30 PM) Manning: i watch the whole thing unfold… from a distance
(03:40:07 PM) Manning: i read what everyone says… look at pictures… keep tabs… and feel for them
(03:40:18 PM) Manning: since im basically playing a vital role in their life
(03:40:29 PM) Manning: without ever meeting them
(03:40:53 PM) Manning: i was like that as an intelligence analyst as well
(03:41:09 PM) Lamo: i know the feeling, in a way.
(03:41:44 PM) Manning: most didnt care… but i knew, i was playing a role in the lives of hundreds of people, without them knowing them… but i cared, and kept track of some of the details, make sure everybody was okay
Originally posted by palg1
Whinny little turd! Yes he was confined to a cage...It's called a prison cell!
Don't you people dare minimize the treasonous act he committed. He was well aware of the consequences before he did anything. He just didn't think they applied to kim.
I compare him to a spoiled child who is surprised that he is being punished for breaking the rules.
Originally posted by Son of Will
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I believe that, psychologically speaking, his illusions about what purpose the US military served were gradually eroded. His perspective changed, ultimately past a tipping point where he (correctly) realized that such classification/compartmentalization procedures were being used predominately to hide crimes, opposed to protect legitimate military knowledge. By this point he was firmly embedded in the machine. No way out (and remember, he tried many times to get out, with no success).
He saw the double-edged sword, judged that the darker side was far sharper than the light side, and acted.
When people call him a traitor they either forget or ignore that there were massive crimes being covered up, and likely would never have surfaced if it weren't for his actions.
In the great context, the people threatened by such a leak already had blood on their hands for being a part of the most wicked military machine this world has known for thousands of years, perhaps ever. I doubt he saw this perspective but it is a fact nonetheless and relevant.
Eta - likewise, I know that such a statement will not make me many friendsedit on 30-11-2012 by Son of Will because: (no reason given)
Uh...yes I agree.Granting access to Intel of importance to a scrub was stupid,no doudt.One would think they would have assigned an officer or intellegence services member.Also if I were the private I'd be more worried about a firing squad than my"cage"
Originally posted by pillock
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I agree he is a traitor . But ask yourself why a lowly private was was in a position to have access to all this information ?
This seems like a cluster F@%k of monumental proportions .
Originally posted by AgentX09
Uh...yes I agree.Granting access to Intel of importance to a scrub was stupid,no doudt.One would think they would have assigned an officer or intellegence services member.Also if I were the private I'd be more worried about a firing squad than my"cage"
Originally posted by pillock
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I agree he is a traitor . But ask yourself why a lowly private was was in a position to have access to all this information ?
This seems like a cluster F@%k of monumental proportions .
Source - Army MOS Descriptions
Intelligence specialists use information derived from all intelligence disciplines to determine changes in enemy capabilities, vulnerabilities, and probable courses of action. The Intelligence Analyst is primarily responsible for supervising, coordinating and participating in the analysis, processing and distribution of strategic and tactical intelligence.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by flyswatter
He was a Specialist before being caught and busted to PFC and his MOS was 35F, Intelligence Analyst.
Source - Army MOS Descriptions
Intelligence specialists use information derived from all intelligence disciplines to determine changes in enemy capabilities, vulnerabilities, and probable courses of action. The Intelligence Analyst is primarily responsible for supervising, coordinating and participating in the analysis, processing and distribution of strategic and tactical intelligence.