Originally posted by thePharaoh
erm...osiris is mentioned in the pyramid texts
As a deity. Not as a king. That comes from the Turin texts. "Zep Tepi" is actually Middle Egyptian
and a concept from that time.
osiris as the dead pharaoh is an ideology from 4th dynasty onwards
Of course... we both knew that.
horus was concieved by osiris after his death
Yes... and Isis wasn't a virgin. Virgin means "never had sex."
no..im saying their are 2 jesus`s
the normal one
and the pharonic ideology one
Except that the Christian religion didn't rise in Egypt and didn't gain much of a foothold there.
and the pope is trying to merge the normal one with the egyptian divine king ideology
They did that in the Middle Ages, but did not use Egyptian theology as a basis.
egypt didnt fall with alexander..alexander SAVED egypt and liberated it from the persians..egyptians loved him, and made him an honourary
It was a bit more complicated than that.
The Roman Republic began in 500 BC. The Empire of Rome began when Augustus Caesar grabs the rule in 27 BC (not AD).
erm..didnt ceaser die in 44bc...how can he grab rule in 27bc lol
Augustus Caesar is NOT the same man as Julius Caesar.
in what world can you have a pharaoh and an emperor living side by side?
Well, Egypt was under Greek rule, and Rome was under Roman rule. They had all sorts of kings and emperors around.
horus the pharaoh incarnate, was born by a virgin birth, after seth killed osiris....isis fashioned an obelisk,,and through the rays of the
sun, bore osiris`s son
Do you have a source for this? The texts themselves very clearly say 'phallus'
and not 'obelisk' (different word.)
I think you're confusing the offerings with a ritual.
offerings are rituals!?
They can be part of a ritual.
It was a flood of beer dyed red, to get Hathor staggering blind drunk. As far as I know, no Christian group practices this.
they covered the land with red wine so sekhment can think she killed human men
the blood of men
Depends on the time and the story. Originally it was Hathor, then it became Sekhmet.
the dark cold days of the winter, represnted the middle of the dead kings journey through the duat
Egypt is on the equator. They don't have dark cold days.
Greeks renamed "Iunu" (which means "Place of pillars.") to Heliopolis after conquering it in 300 BC.
correct...but thats still 300 years before catholicism...the greeks AND romans called it city of the sun..did they adopt it?
The city is one of the most ancient ones in the world, so it existed before as Iunu and was renamed an retooled by the Greeks. It kept the name
Heliopolis ever since then.
the pope...added initials to his name RA....pope benedict RA
I can't find a single source about this. Do you have a link?
TBH - heard it from someone, he told me they were initials that stood for something, !?.
I don't see any source that indicates Pope Benedict uses "RA" in any form.
The Temple of Dendara is Greek and dates to about 300 BC. That's our modern zodiac (mostly).
scholars say its from an older source...and it was REBUILT by the greeks
No, it was carved by the Greeks. We do have a few older "star maps" but they're a procession of gods and not a real map.
if anyone can read the outer rims of the denderra zodiac
No map to rebirth.
have you seen the rest of the glyphs on the walls?
Yes. And I can read some of them.
im saying the LIVING jesus is horus - the king
the DEAD jesus is oiris - the dead king
Doesn't work, theologically. In Christian tradition, Jesus=God and is a trinity (father, son, holy ghost.) In Egyptian tradition, there were a
number of different "father" deities (Ra is the most common one.) and multiple son deities (Osiris is the son of Ra, making Horus the grandson of the
tut tut...the whole thread is about the pope announcing that the date of jesus is wrong..and christmas is pagan
Yes, he has some research that he says gives a different date for the year of birth. Christmas IS an appropriation of the Roman (not Egyptian)
festival of Saturnalia. Many of the traditions are Germanic. However, if you've read the excerpts about the books and the Pope's writings, it's
pretty evident that they aren't based on Egyptian theology.
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