reply to post by intrepid
I can relate very strongly with your attitude intrepid. Both my grandfathers fought in the second world war, and their burdens from that were heavy
enough that my parents had a tough time when they were young, for one reason or another, that link back to thier fathers suffering during that war.
Everyone in the "free" world has a debt of gratitude owed to those who laid down thier lives against such a vast, deadly, and totalitarian regime,
which had the men and machinery to make total domination possible, if not tactically likely. I believe it is important to remember them, and those
that died senselessly in the first world war also.
However, it just isnt accurate to compare the second world war, or any action that happened in it, with anything that happens today, in any of the
armed conflicts in which the western democracies and thier armed forces have a hand.
First of all, in the second world war the danger posed by Nazisim and its war machine, was in the form of the threat of invasion, and a seizure of all
control from a soveriegn government, by a people who wanted to remove vast numbers of people from the genepool on the word of ONE psychotic, godless
bastard. The organisation that made this happen systematically killed millions of defenseless people in an industrial manner.
The SPECIFIC threat posed by the Nazi war machine was what justified the staggering bombing runs staged by the RAF.
Had the threat been that a very small minority of people, who were not in control of vast numbers of men, and thousands upon thousands of tonnes of
war vehicles, planes, and ships, were threatening to blow up the Houses Of Parliament, or detonate a bomb on a Dover to Calais ferry, then nothing
like that would have been done at all. The people involved in the plot would merely have been found out, caught, questioned, detained, and then hung
like a hunters days work. I.E. drawn and quatered to boot.
But these days, we dont have the gumption to put up with the COMPARATIVELY small threat of idiots with backpack bombs, or hunt them cleanly, with no
collateral... ooooh no! This once stoic nation that at one point was the only effective fighting force opposing the might of Nazi germany, now bombs
people from the air with the merest provocation, fully understanding that the risk to innocent bystanders is huge, and not carring a single damn about
Now... I care about the fate of, and have no issue with, the individuals who do the fighting. But the public should accept that they shouldnt have
been sent, and shouldnt still be there.
While I find it impossible to empathise with people protesting at the rememberance of World War One and Two, and the horrible toll they took on those
who fought in those wars, I can totaly understand someone protesting against the rememberance of those who fell in more recent campaigns, because they
were fighting unjust wars, against a foe which posed no military threat to the world, and should have been dealt with by the intelligence services
exclusively, rather than full scale invasions and bombing runs.