Hypothetical: Spacefaring humans

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posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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This is just a hypothetical question, and I thought of it while pondering a short story that I want to write.

It is the year 2237 and Jesus has not yet returned as had been predicted numerous times. Earth is becoming overpopulated and something needs to be done to remedy this.

We have achieved efficient space travel and we go to a planet that we have found to be habitable. Could be Mars, or some planet/moon outside of our solar system.

Anyway, we begin colonizing it, people of all belief systems.

In the year 2246, Jesus comes back to earth, taking all his people with him. But, there are christians on this planet 57 light years away. Do they get to go too? Do the non-believers on this distant planet suffer the bad things that happen on earth? Do they also get thrown in hell at some point with their counterparts on Earth?

As a side note, this may or may not be so hypothetical if you believe some of the stories you read on this very site. They say that there are humans on the moon and Mars right now as I type this....(if you can believe that)
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posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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jesus will have a space-mothership called new jerusalem. so, probably no problem with the distance.
www.luciferianliberationfront.org...



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by icepack
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jesus will have a space-mothership called new jerusalem. so, probably no problem with the distance.
www.luciferianliberationfront.org...

Hahahahah, it does resemble a spaceship, doesn't it...



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Well Christianity was made up when people thought the Earth was flat, so I don't suppose it's been taken in to consideration.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Why would you believe in such a thing, without any supporting facts or evidence?



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by Jauk3
Why would you believe in such a thing, without any supporting facts or evidence?


Don't bother, the answer is always "faith".



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Jauk3
Why would you believe in such a thing, without any supporting facts or evidence?
Who were you asking?



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by SpearMint
Well Christianity was made up when people thought the Earth was flat, so I don't suppose it's been taken in to consideration.


Christians didn't think that the Earth was flat: The Myth of the Flat Earth. I wonder what else you might be utterly wrong about?



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Hydroman
This is just a hypothetical question, and I thought of it while pondering a short story that I want to write.

It is the year 2237 and Jesus has not yet returned as had been predicted numerous times. Earth is becoming overpopulated and something needs to be done to remedy this.


Okay I know my answer here will be "no fun" but it's true nonetheless. The fact is that freewill exists (at the moment) only in your thoughts. That is to say, only your thoughts are really "yours"; nothing else is. There is zero "freewill" in the physical world. Probabilities don't exist (save as perception of thought constructed by your mind to describe a specific information), but there are no "possiblities" in this reality any more than it was "possible" for Frodo to choose not to go through the Mines of Moria. This "reality" is simply a story being told, and you are just physically along for the ride, to observe and learn from what you are witnessing.

So, there is no such a thing as "maybe in time we could" or "what if Nazi Germnay won WW2" or any of these "potential possiblities" because there is only one course that reality can and will take, and everything you are witnessing is just that one course. Even when you flip a coin, the outcome is not actually 50/50 (this is just a description of information): there is actually only one possible outcome.

In other words, there won't be anything happening that isn't already written: in fact, "the bible" is the engine of this creation, and everything that is, and will be, in this "reality" is proceeding out of this information. Much as though we would call the bible the "program language" and the observable "reality" the execution of the program. However, once the information has run its course, then and only then will anyone be truly free to "create" his own reality. But no one is going to be allowed such awesome power until they first come to the understanding of how to properly wield it.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint
Well Christianity was made up when people thought the Earth was flat, so I don't suppose it's been taken in to consideration.


Christians didn't think that the Earth was flat: The Myth of the Flat Earth. I wonder what else you might be utterly wrong about?


But we're not talking about middle ages...



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Earth imploded because humans bred it out of existence proving that there is no God.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint
Well Christianity was made up when people thought the Earth was flat, so I don't suppose it's been taken in to consideration.


Christians didn't think that the Earth was flat: The Myth of the Flat Earth. I wonder what else you might be utterly wrong about?


But we're not talking about middle ages...


Christians never thought that the Earth was flat. The spherical nature of the planet was fairly well universally accepted in the western world prior to the birth of Christ. Try again.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint
Well Christianity was made up when people thought the Earth was flat, so I don't suppose it's been taken in to consideration.


Christians didn't think that the Earth was flat: The Myth of the Flat Earth. I wonder what else you might be utterly wrong about?


But we're not talking about middle ages...


Christians never thought that the Earth was flat. The spherical nature of the planet was fairly well universally accepted in the western world prior to the birth of Christ. Try again.


I like how you're acting as though I have something to prove. Replace the earth being flat with any outdated theory, the point remains, Christianity is old and was made up before we knew inhabiting another planet may be possible.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint
I like how you're acting as though I have something to prove. Replace the earth being flat with any outdated theory, the point remains, Christianity is old and was made up before we knew inhabiting another planet may be possible.


Who cares? What difference does that make to the topic at hand? Are you a Fundamentalist atheist, who insists that Christianity live under the auspices of every word of the Old Testament?

When our understanding of the nature of the world around us changes, most Christians go with the flow, because it rarely has any impact on faith. Cite all of the "outdated theories" you want, but they're of no relevance to the vast majority of theists.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint
I like how you're acting as though I have something to prove. Replace the earth being flat with any outdated theory, the point remains, Christianity is old and was made up before we knew inhabiting another planet may be possible.


Who cares? What difference does that make to the topic at hand? Are you a Fundamentalist atheist, who insists that Christianity live under the auspices of every word of the Old Testament?

When our understanding of the nature of the world around us changes, most Christians go with the flow, because it rarely has any impact on faith. Cite all of the "outdated theories" you want, but they're of no relevance to the vast majority of theists.


It has everything to do with the topic at hand. Go back and read my first reply.

It's an OLD fairy tale which does not consider things like this.
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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Sorry, I was asking you.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint
It has everything to do with the topic at hand. Go back and read my first reply.

It's an OLD fairy tale which does not consider things like this.


Because Christian theology hasn't evolved since the First Century?


Honestly, where do you come up with these bizarre notions?

Looky here: Catholic theology regarding evolution

Or over here: Methodist opposition to Indian casinos

Maybe here: Church of England on pornography

There's three things that didn't exist 2000 years ago, but Christianity still seems to have something to say on the subject.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by SpearMint
It has everything to do with the topic at hand. Go back and read my first reply.

It's an OLD fairy tale which does not consider things like this.


Because Christian theology hasn't evolved since the First Century?


Honestly, where do you come up with these bizarre notions?

Looky here: Catholic theology regarding evolution

Or over here: Methodist opposition to Indian casinos

Maybe here: Church of England on pornography

There's three things that didn't exist 2000 years ago, but Christianity still seems to have something to say on the subject.


I don't see how evolution, casinos and porn are related to space travel.
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint
I don't see how evolution, casinos and porn are related to space travel.


Because Christians are bright enough to be able to apply Christianity to all manners of things that didn't exist in the time of Christ, demonstrating that your "Christianity is old and has nothing to say about modern things" statement is an invalid one.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Because Christians are bright enough to be able to apply Christianity to all manners of things...
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You mean like how they say everything is already mentioned in the bible?

"Oh you found Higgs boson particles? well, its already in the bible, you just need to look carefully. If you having trouble, ill take you to my pastor" aka "make it fit"





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