Was Sandy a test of sorts?

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posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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I had dinner the other night with a friend from Staten Island. We discussed what happened there in the immediate aftermath of Sandy. What she told me was rather odd and unexplainable. Much of it is admittedly anecdotal, but life is about what we perceive as reality. Can reality be manipulated to serve a purpose?

The person is a teacher in her late 40s who works with severely handicapped children. In her class, there are more adults than students. Some of these children require a handler as well as a nurse. I only mention this illustrate she is a professional and logical thinking person with tremendous responsibility and operates in a rather intense environment. She's had to perform emergency procedures on children experiencing seizure events.

She's also very intuitive - probably the most intuitive person I've ever met. She can read someone in the first few minutes of meeting them. I have found her to be so spot on when reading someone's personality and how they would respond to certain issues, and it's scary how accurate she can be. She is also not a person who frequents anything like ATS and is very apolitical. I don't think she's ever voted. As a matter of fact, I can state I'm sure she's never voted. So her observations are not colored by political affiliation. I've never heard her comment one way or another on any administration.

So she started to talk about the event and the aftermath. I just sat and listened. She told me she volunteered and went to the area most affected by the storm. She said she got a strange feeling when entering into the neighborhood. A feeling that something "unnatural" happened there. It didn't look like storm damage. It looked like something much more than that. She said there was a strange aura in the area and how the damage didn't appear "natural" and how it was odd that there seemed to be a line of demarcation where the damage and destruction oddly dropped off precipitously - more like the damage a tornado would do than a hurricane Something she thought odd considering this storm was 1000 miles across. She said "It looks like it (the storm) targeted specific areas as if it was directed." I asked what the purpose would be. She said to see how we would respond. She called it a test. I asked if she knew what HAARP was and she said she had no idea what I was talking about.

She said her cousin has a friend that's stationed at the Coast Guard base on SI and she was told they were ordered to stand down and not leave the base to aid in the recovery. The order lasted 4 days. She questioned why a government agency that is clearly suited to respond to such an event would not be called upon to help as a first responder. She also noted that there were utility crews from various other states ready to help with line restoration, yet they too were not given direction and were standing around for that same four day period, doing nothing.

Another thing she thought was odd was that after these four days passed, things kicked in and people were asked to perform certain tasks like delivering supplies to specific addresses with specific items. She wondered how this information could be known given the fact that cell and land lines were not operational, yet the supplies were specific right down to dog and cat food and specific child care products and food and were to be delivered to specific addresses. She asked how they could possibly know this information when everything was in blackout. She surmised that somehow they used census data and found that to be rather creepy.

Additionally, the numbers of dead, she feels is grossly understated, claiming that a nearby school was set up as a morgue and that security there was tight and that no one was willing to talk about it directly though she said a few of the cops she spoke with did hint at the idea there were many, many more dead than was being reported officially.

Well it's all anecdotal I know, but would like to see if there are others who were on Staten Island or other areas effected by the storm and if they had a similar impression of this event and how it and the recovery scene appeared to them.




posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Why even bring up HAARP in the first place?

But to answer your question, no. It was a storm, and it sucked for the people in the path.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Whether man made or naturally occurring, it certainly did put to test those in it's path, and from it they saw how they scored, thus many, if not most, have become reconnected with reality and their own humanity.

A wake-up call to mortality, and without television, computers, cell phones, and food, all we have is each other.
As did with Andrew, Katrina, and as did Charlie to my home town.
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posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Sandy was a hurricane, that's it. All this other nonsense is just that, nonsense.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by dmac359
Sandy was a hurricane, that's it. All this other nonsense is just that, nonsense.


Yes it was a storm. Now explain the other issues such as the Coast Guard being ordered to remain on base and not assist in the emergency efforts. Explain why hundreds of volunteer utility workers were not performing the services they were sent there to do, for days.

I didn't make this up and only reported what was told to me by a person who doesn't get involved in looking at life events in terms of external motives. She brought this up on her own when I asked her how she managed in the storm. I know her as not having any political or end times views. I thought it was very strange hearing this from her in her own words, knowing what I read here often. It made me wonder if she tuned into something that is only debated among people who have those views and state them here. In some way it lent more credence to them because I know she has never engaged in such topics before.




This light house stood for more than a century and weathered the worst of storms. It was a cast iron structure. It's gone. Completely gone.

Staten Island's Old Orchard Light, a New York Harbor stalwart for 119 years, is swept away



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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I was hoping to see people with first-hand experience come on this thread and report their own observations. Not happening yet. I thought I'd post to give this thread a bump, people need to start thinking about things happening at home as well as overseas.

However, it wouldn't surprise me that the death toll was higher than what is reported. In fact, we're not hearing anything on the news anymore about this, but I'm fairly certain that there are still people without power, living in shelters or struggling without basic utilities.

As far as the demarcation line for destruction, perhaps there were tornadoes in the storm? I haven't heard this, but often storms of this nature have tornadoes within them.

It's hard to know if there is some conspiracy within this disaster. I remember after Hurricane Katrina, we got a bunch of refugees in from NO up in the Dallas area. I was in a store in line, and I remember hearing two survivors talking about how their neighborhood got flooded. They claimed that they heard a few really large explosions, and then suddenly the water surged into their houses. They felt that the Army Corps of Engineers blew the levies on purpose, for reasons unknown, and they had to suffer for it.

I hope that more people will dig into this Sandy story and try to find the truth, because, from what I've read so far, FEMA dropped the ball again. Can't help but wonder if its on purpose....another form of soft kill? Not to mention people abandoning their properties, so they can be snapped up later by Johnnys-on-the-spot for next to nothing.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Bilk22

Originally posted by dmac359
Sandy was a hurricane, that's it. All this other nonsense is just that, nonsense.


Yes it was a storm. Now explain the other issues such as the Coast Guard being ordered to remain on base and not assist in the emergency efforts. Explain why hundreds of volunteer utility workers were not performing the services they were sent there to do, for days.

I didn't make this up and only reported what was told to me by a person who doesn't get involved in looking at life events in terms of external motives. She brought this up on her own when I asked her how she managed in the storm. I know her as not having any political or end times views. I thought it was very strange hearing this from her in her own words, knowing what I read here often. It made me wonder if she tuned into something that is only debated among people who have those views and state them here. In some way it lent more credence to them because I know she has never engaged in such topics before.




This light house stood for more than a century and weathered the worst of storms. It was a cast iron structure. It's gone. Completely gone.

Staten Island's Old Orchard Light, a New York Harbor stalwart for 119 years, is swept away


The problem you have here is that the Coast Guard DID help with rescue and recovery in some cases. Is it a fact that some were told to stay on location and not go out to help? We dont really know. If you assume that this is true, then you have to get into who it was that was told this, who the people were that told them, and the reasons that it happened. For all we know it could have been office people that were told to stay there.

In regards to the utility worker issues, I do know that some of that was related to the unionized workers bullsh*t. We had a group of line workers (electricians) that went over to help out and were told not to help because they were not union. I cant attribute all of the volunteer issues to this, but this was the issue in at least SOME of those cases.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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there were lots of specifics about who needed what where and though I found it odd it seemed to have a great deal to do with twitter more than anything else. shelters were able to get out the word on who needed what.

what was weirdest to me, a resident of new york was that due to the tidal surge from the hurricane, high tide, full moon and raised sea level due to the hurricane it was like we got hit by a tiny tsunami. All of the footage of subways flooding and boardwalks being washed away don't look like a hurricane so much as a tsunami.

ther other bizarre thing was the gas rationing- if there was any testing going on I figured it would be a nice peak oil experiment- cut off oil where? where most people don't need a car to get around and see how 9 millionb people tolerate for a while.

good times.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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I was inside for days and there was a torrential downpour. I didn't think there was any conspiracy involved. It was a giant storm. With global warming and global climate change and extreme weather conditions we're going to be dealing with more of these intense storms. Don't tell Alex Jones I said that... but, there was nothing conspiracyish about it... that's what these storms tend to be like. Nature can be a *****.



posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Thanks OP.
I find this whole storm an anomaly.
We were told it was several hundred miles across so you might think that the damage would be more or less
consisent. That is what disturbs me is how inconsistent it was.
It didn't seem to matter if you were right on the coast or miles inland, either. Some of the miles inland places were harder hit than what was alleged to be the storm's center, Atlantic City which was remarkably unscathed?
The boardwalk was by and large undamaged as were the casinos which received no damage, at all.
Other places inland from there were swamped with water. That is impossible to happen. It wouldn't bypass the coast unscathed and then flood miles inland on the same path.

I was told earlier today by someone that they had hardly any wind and rain from the storm. Yet, their sister who lived about 15 miles away home was completely destroyed. Of the several siblings all lived more or less in the same general area and had vastly different storm damage. Some deluged with rain others just a drizzle throughout.

The type of damage they said was more consistent with what you see following a tornado with the flattening.
Yet the storm produced no tornadoes. The person said they'd lived for years in Florida and were familiar with hurricanes of all categories. This for their home was just a tropical storm yet their family members faced destruction of a Cat 4 just a few miles away. It makes no sense.

When you see the teacher again, could you ask if the flooding and water damage might have come up from below rather than in from the coast? Thanks.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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It's really something to see how people in NYC reacted to the coming storm. Wiped out everything in my supermarket from batteries to milk and bread. Day after the hurricane passed, saw the same people come in and shop.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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I have a friend who works for FEMA, he has been dispatched to all US natural disasters in the last 10yrs, but for some reason he was told that he was not going anywhere close to Sandy. He was in complete shock that he was not going. He still doesnt know why he was never sent to New York.
He does the fiming of the aftermath & no one in his department was sent to New York film anything.





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