reply to post by CryHavoc
If you're asking to have a real discussion on it, I'll bite. There are a few things here worth noting.
First, Bush was a bastard. Pardon my french. He got his second term as a Conservative and became what I can only term a Bushist. He absolutely wasn't
a Capitalist and he was no Conservative. Not with the TARP and Bailout B.S. and if he wasn't mid crisis, lame ducked and on the tail of his last
term....He WOULD have been impeached with bipartisan support, is my honest view. Another year of the one who started it being there to shower anger on
and the House would have been publicly pressured to start the proceedings.
Obama came in and turned Bush's half trillion dollars worth of bad bad idea into a BIGGER bad idea, multiplied 3 fold...Literally. So using Bush as
an example is fair....and I'd love to see him held to at least testify on what happened. Like who moved MEGA-Billions off shore in a 48 hour period
which started Bush and his buddies into a near green faced panic into fiscal insanity way back in the very start?
Next, Obama-care is a dead bird. Period. Missouri passed a Constitutional Amendment this election, by using the clause the Supreme Court left wide
open for what I believe was the purpose, to block exchanges entirely and Constitutionally prohibit fine or sanction of any kind against any Missouri
Resident for failure to comply with the terms of the Affordable Care Act. Game, Set, Match and with a big Check-Mate. Thanks to the Roberts court.
Missouri is NOT the only state to have passed or strengthened the same thing. There are plenty of states that don't have that protection and it can
still work there, but the system is written to function as a system not a patch work. It won't last long if fully implemented with many states
outright refusing any part of it by their own laws. A mess indeed.
What that doesn't do however.....is remove the regulatory and statutory increases in costs for business and insurance funds (workers comp, for
instance that a ONE man business still has to pay to be legal) and that has people pissed off beyond all reason. Take a fair and honest look at just
what has been added for direct cost to small construction business in EPA lead compliance regulations. That's down to small 1 or 2 man crews doing
windows or whatever, not just Mega companies. It hurts...Bad.
Finally, everything from dictates of school lunches to busting people at farmers markets for selling milk Uncle doesn't like drinking in federal
stings has the states and people in them about tired of Uncle putting his grandfatherly image into our lives to become the Grinch.
(to put a little
light on things) Obama didn't start it and he didn't have to....He's just the guy doing the same things when push seems to be meeting shove for a
good many people, IMO. I don't think Romney would have been given much time either, all things being equal. People are sick of it all from