UK Tax Shambles - The 'Immoral' Tax Avoiders, Amazon, Starbucks and Google, page 1


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reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:12 AM by woodwardjnr
reply to post by michael1983l



The thing is they have us over a barrel. The best thing to do would just be charge the lowest rate of corporation tax in Europe, making it more attractive set up and pay here rather than avoid it. A little bit of something is better than nothing I guess. Still my argument is that as these companies rely on the infrastructure of this nation to operate, they are morally bound to pay their taxes like everyone else. The infrastructure paid for by taxes by the way.

The reason why these big companies operate in the uk, is because t is a safe place, you have a sound legal system, police force and fire department. Well maintained infrastructure a reasonably educated population and the other freedoms that come along with operating in an established democracy. Now all those things have to be paid for. They ave been paid over time by taxation. Now if we were all to avoid that tax, we would have none of the things mentioned and would be a third world state, where the likes of google, amazon and Starbucks don't operate.

It seems some people have trouble working that concept through.
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reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:16 AM by FFS4000
reply to post by michael1983l



Stopped using google and all of their products ages ago (unless i rip something from youtube )

Fastbucks coffee tastes like dishwater so haven't drunk that in years either.

Amazon, have never used them as i've always found what i want cheaper elsewhere.

so yeah i'm all for boycotting.

Cant believe matey from fastbucks reckons they dont make any money in the UK, what an utter crock of s**t, Yeah as head of the UK division, you made no money so they made you ooverall boss, does he really think we are all that stupid


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:42 AM by michael1983l
reply to post by doobydoll



I concur, I think it is pretty bad that these companies get away with it but I think it is even worse that our government doesn't make the law so they cannot get away with it. It's not like Starbucks can just boycott Britain is it, either that want to trade here or they don't, if they leave Costa will just take up the slack. I want to hear of the UK changing its corporation taxation to reference UK turnover rather than profit. After all the government doesn't care if my personal budget is in deficit, they still tax me regardless, why should it be any different for multinationals?


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:54 AM by doobydoll
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It's the fault of government that corporations are getting away with it. I say let corporations pull their business out of our country if they object to paying their fair share, we don't need them so badly. They cost our country more money to operate here than they contribute anyway, through not paying taxes, and through their employees having to claim top-up benefits to survive.

We wouldn't be much worse off without them, we'd still be broke, but they'd be plenty worse off without us.



reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 04:10 AM by Britguy
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Think of it this way... is Starbucks get in a huff and quit the country, there would be an immediate opening for others to step in and open small cafe's and coffee shops. The void would be filled and jobs created. We don't need them here.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 04:16 AM by cconn487
Originally posted by doobydoll
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post by michael1983l



It's the fault of government that corporations are getting away with it. I say let corporations pull their business out of our country if they object to paying their fair share, we don't need them so badly. They cost our country more money to operate here than they contribute anyway, through not paying taxes, and through their employees having to claim top-up benefits to survive.

We wouldn't be much worse off without them, we'd still be broke, but they'd be plenty worse off without us.


The US government kind of decided they were making the decisions on our behalf, whats sad is they kind of have our own armed forces in their pocket now to continue business as usual on the world stage. With so much debt, its no wonder why they choose to take payoffs from the bigger corporations. Turning a blind eye to corruption and making laws knowing full well of the numerous loopholes that only those corporations can take part in.

I'm convinced the crime bosses that basically owned cities back in the day have infiltrated their way into our government. I really can't see any other way a lot of these scumbags get away with a fraction of what they get away with.

Money is a dangerous commodity. And it isn't worth the paper its printed on.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 04:43 AM by doobydoll
Originally posted by Britguy
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post by doobydoll



Think of it this way... is Starbucks get in a huff and quit the country, there would be an immediate opening for others to step in and open small cafe's and coffee shops. The void would be filled and jobs created. We don't need them here.

We certainly don't need them here. No one needs them anywhere. They are a burden to us. They poison our economy and ecology, and governments worldwide do nothing to stop them.

Government has allowed them to ruin everything, now it is left holding the buck and no-one to pass it to, and rightly so.

Corporation 1, government 0.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 05:13 AM by michael1983l
reply to post by n00bUK



But if these companies paid their fair share then the little man wouldn't have to pay as much tax and wouldn't need to fiddle the system. By the way those that do fiddle the system are no better than these multinationals. Why should those that are dishonest get an easier ride than those honest ones that just struggle on?
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