A Good Biblical Reason for Abortion

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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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The water caused the curse. Do you really believe in magic water that knows if a woman has been unfaithful? Do you think a guilty woman's belly automatically swells up as she becomes horrible ill, while an innocent woman suffers nothing?


No, I don't believe in magic water, but I do believe in the power of God.

Either way, God has the power to make the water bitter or to save the woman from the bitter water. This is obviously what the Jews believed. If they were poisoning the water, then they expected God to be the one to save the woman from it if she was innocent.

For some reason, everyone keeps overlooking this verse:

Numbers 5:21

21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;

If we look at these verses again in Numbers 5:27-28, it looks as though these people believed that the water would only enter into the woman "and become bitter" if she was indeed found guilty by the LORD.

27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.




posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Check out 'ergot' derived from some sort of fungus which was used in the middle

ages to induce abortions? I believe it is also bitter tasting!
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edit on 12-11-2012 by eletheia because: (no reason given)


It's called Urgot, and it's a bread mold and it's the root cause of the Salem Witch Trials. People had gotten hopped up on Urgot which has a hallucinagenic effect and started accusing eachother of witchcraft in their mass paranoia and mass hysteria and alot of innocent people died before they figured out what was happening.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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There is an 'ergot' google it...one of the things it can cause is the cervic muscles to over

contract with all the problems that can cause.


Sorry i can't link but taken from Wikipedia


The neurotropic activities of the ergot alkaloids may cause hallucinations and attendant

irrational behaviour, convultions and even death

Strong uterine contractions, nausea, seizures and unconsciousness. Since the middle

ages controlled doses of 'ergot' were used in inducing abortions.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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I understand that the Hebrew people were led to believe that their just God would only condemn the wicked, and that only guilty women would suffer.

So was the water just water, and God was the one to administered the curse fairly? Or did the water contain an abortionifient?

If the water was just water, then this whole thing is just hocus pocus and superstition, and any miscarriage that the ritual caused was either "Voodoo" type magic or psychologically induced. Is that possible? Can a woman use fear or will to expel a fetus? Enter Todd Akin........

If there was something in the water that induced a miscarriage, then certainly, any pregnant woman, whether faithful to her husband or not, would experience "the curse."

Either way, the intent of the ritual is to expel and unwanted pregnancy, to cause an ordained abortion.

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I would also like to note that the penalty for an adulterous woman was death by stoning, killing both the woman and her unborn child, should she become pregnant from the act, whether with the other man's child, or already carrying her own husband's child.

This ritual, in the book of Numbers, is designed for the man who has no proof, that would condemn his wife, and possible her child to death, other than his suspicion and or jealousy. The woman, whether guilty or not, is assigned the blame for the man's paranoia.
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Either way, the intent of the ritual is to expel and unwanted pregnancy, to cause an ordained abortion.


That may be the intent, but I think there's a big difference between saying that priests were performing abortions versus letting God decide the fate of these women.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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If they had faith in God to assign justice then no ritual, involving the woman swallowing the bitter water, would be necessary. IMO

If it is God that is magically aborting the unborn, and not the act of swallowing the bitter water itself, why does this God of the Old Testament require men to break the 10 Commandments and order them to kill, when he could just as easily magically strike down the law breaker with lightening himself? Why is there magic when there is doubt, and no magic when there is no doubt?

If God commanded men to pick up stones and kill the guilty lawbreaker, then it's not far from believing that God would have the priests embue the water with a poison that causes a miscarriage.





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