reply to post by Kester
I know people who were at The Battle Of The Beanfield and they have told me some horrific stories about the brutality and violence committed by the
police, some of which have never been told 'in public'.
I've also heard the story about the alleged heroin stash.
Now I have no doubt that there were some heroin users within the travelling community but they were very much a minority - heroin was not the drug of
choice for most of these people.
And it was ridiculous to think for one minute that there would be a significant amount of heroin in the convoy - there was a very small market in a
community where cash was always in short supply.
Never heard anything about the police being deliberately wound up by allegations that one of the vehicle's had been responsible for the death of two
The police were instructed to smash the convoy up using whatever means possible.
Effectively they were used as a state controlled tool to destroy a way of life that the state feared as it had so little control over, despite the
majority within the community being pacifists and non-aggressive.
The subsequent cover up and manipulation and supression of the facts by the authorities is proof in itself of the pre-meditated brutality shown by the
I think Hillsborough has been covered at length in other threads here on ATS.
Whilst I don't know anyone who was at Orgreave I do however know many ex-miners who were on the picket lines during the strike and who witnessed many
acts of police brutality.
It is also generally accepted that the police used agent provocateurs to deliberately stir up trouble and confrontation between the miners and the
All done with either government approval or possibly even government instruction.
I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the current government, and the previous one, would be prepared to use the police force in such a manner
The Leveson Inquiry touched on the incestuous relationship between politicians / Civil Servants / Senior police officers / MSM and industrialists.
There is no reason to believe that this relationship has altered in any way at all and I suspect that the police could well be used to reinforce or
even tighten their control over the British people.
During the riots in 2011 there were numerous reports of the police initially sitting back and allowing the rioters free reign.
This, along with MSM reporting helped influence the public's perception.
I suspect any future civil disobedience will be brutally put down immediately using the riots as the reasoning for such swift and harsh tactics
And as the gap between the wealthy and the not so wealthy grows I wouldn't be surprised if the police are used to supress the people whilst private
police forces are used to protect and guard the elite and their possessions.