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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Anti-Muslim filmmaker detained for almost a month...next court date three days after election


www.washingtontimes.com

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the 55-year-old filmmaker responsible for the anti-Muslim video that President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice initially and wrongly blamed for inciting the deadly terrorist attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, is still being held at the Los Angeles Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) without bond.

It has been almost one month since Mr. Nakoula was arrested for allegedly violating the terms of his probation.
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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I'm surprised that no one is talking about this!! This guy has been wasting away in a jail cell and is apparently not being permitted to talk to anyone regarding his role in this blame game.

According to the story his next court date is 3 days after the election. How convenient. What is really going on here and why such a delay??


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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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“Nakoula was ordered detained -- held without bond -- by a federal judge, who determined he posed a flight risk,” said Thom Mrozek of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California.

Mr. Nakoula’s next court date is on November 9, three days after the presidential election. In the meantime, while the Obama administration passes blame around over who dropped the ball with the attack in Benghazi, Mr. Nakoula remains locked up and muzzled in a Los Angeles detention center until after the ballots for president are counted on November 6.


Where is the outrage? I know he has a criminal history and has used several aliases. However, this guy was originally blamed for the death of 4 Americans. Is he just another patsy being played by the Obama Administration?



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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I have wondered this myself. What probation violation did he supposedly commit? Usually, people have contact with their attorney within the first few days. Has this not happened? EXTREME violation of rights. Obama cannot get far enough away from the Benghazi attack because all the links go right back to him and his administration. I wonder what Romney will do 3 days after he is elected to get this man due justice?



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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It is standard SOP for anyone who is on probation who is accused of violating it...

No outside contact or phone calls....



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
Is he just another patsy being played by the Obama Administration?


No, he's a criminal that violated the terms of his probation and this "news source" is using it to politicize it.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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Probation violation=jail time=no outrage. Nothing out of ordinary here.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by ripcontrol
It is standard SOP for anyone who is on probation who is accused of violating it...

No outside contact or phone calls....


He has not been convicted of a probation violation yet and is just sitting it out until after the election...

He had a hearing earlier in October and has been mothballed ever since


A California man linked to an anti-Islam film that stoked violent protests in the Muslim world denied on Wednesday that he had violated his probation on a bank fraud conviction, and he was sent back to jail until his case can be heard on its merits.

The man, who has been known publicly as Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, denied under oath in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles that he committed eight probation violations, including lying to officials over the scope his role in the film and using aliases.

If he is found to have violated the terms of his supervised release from prison, the Egyptian-born Coptic Christian man whose legal name is Mark Basseley Youssef could be sent back to prison for two years.


news.yahoo.com...

Not sure where it says anywhere that alleged probation violators cannot have any outside contact.... This is not Charles Manson here....



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by jibeho
Is he just another patsy being played by the Obama Administration?


No, he's a criminal that violated the terms of his probation and this "news source" is using it to politicize it.


He has not been convicted of any probation violation yet. Easy on your quick judgement... He's only had one hearing where he denied the allegations....

Problem with the Washington Times??



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Holy cow!

This guy shouldn't be in jail! This is an outrage to say the least. He was expressing his views and making people laugh.

Whats next? Putting Bill Maher and Rush Limbaugh in jail?


 
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posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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I love how "right to a speedy trial" has been stretch so far that some people will sit in holding for a year or more before ever seeing a judge.

And what put this guy in there is bunk in the first place.

C'mon.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho

“Nakoula was ordered detained -- held without bond -- by a federal judge, who determined he posed a flight risk,” said Thom Mrozek of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California.

Mr. Nakoula’s next court date is on November 9, three days after the presidential election. In the meantime, while the Obama administration passes blame around over who dropped the ball with the attack in Benghazi, Mr. Nakoula remains locked up and muzzled in a Los Angeles detention center until after the ballots for president are counted on November 6.


Where is the outrage? I know he has a criminal history and has used several aliases. However, this guy was originally blamed for the death of 4 Americans. Is he just another patsy being played by the Obama Administration?



Uh, he was sent back on a parole/probation? violation. Meaning he still had time left on (alternative to) custodial sentence. He violated his parole/probation, there are no rights being violated because he was sentenced for a crime already...
edit on 24-10-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Gridrebel
reply to post by jibeho
 


I have wondered this myself. What probation violation did he supposedly commit? Usually, people have contact with their attorney within the first few days. Has this not happened? EXTREME violation of rights. Obama cannot get far enough away from the Benghazi attack because all the links go right back to him and his administration. I wonder what Romney will do 3 days after he is elected to get this man due justice?


He was barred from using computers unless authorized by the person supervising his probation. This was because of the fraud he committed in the past.

Not surprisingly, he didn't ask permission to make his movie. Which was done with the help of computers. Not so much a criminal mastermind this guy was...



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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You don't have to be convicted for probation violation, your already a convict on probation..lol..,



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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Doesn't he have to be convicted of the parole violation before being remanded to complete the original sentence?



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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Nakoula’s June 2010 sentencing transcript shows that after being arrested, he testified against an alleged ring leader of the fraud scheme, in exchange for a lighter sentence.[23][24][25] He was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison, followed by five years probation (supervised release), and ordered to pay $794,701 in restitution.[4][26] He was sent to prison, then to a halfway house,[27] and was released from custody in June 2011. A few weeks later, he began working on Innocence of Muslims.[28][27] Conditions of Nakoula's probation include not using aliases and not using the Internet without prior approval from his probation officer.[29][30]


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by micmerci
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Doesn't he have to be convicted of the parole violation before being remanded to complete the original sentence?


No, you are automatically held in custody, because you are already convicted of the crime. You re lucky enough to get a non-restrictive punishment (being in the community), so when you violate that, or are suspected of violating that, you can expect all privileges vanish.

They do, do hearings for parole and probation violations, but in most cases, the offenders stay in custody until that's done.

This case is cut and dry, he's already admitted to his violation. Now he will be sentenced for it which could be more probation, custody, or a slap on the wrist. He has to wait for that to happen...

The measures here are completely within the right of the state, and it is mitigating the risk to public safety. If a sex offender was breaking his probation restrictions by hanging around a school, I doubt the people defending in this thread would have the same opinion....



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
He has not been convicted of any probation violation yet. Easy on your quick judgement... He's only had one hearing where he denied the allegations....


He's already a convict. He's being held, as opposed to bond, because he's a flight risk.


Problem with the Washington Times??


I have a problem with any source that would take a simple case of probation violation and use it as a political stab.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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everything will be approved/amended/passed/clarified/jacked up after the election according to the POTUS
It seems to be the norm with many other policies and laws/regulations in question thus far.



posted on Oct, 24 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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You are too funny.





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