posted on Oct, 22 2012 @ 12:58 AM
So...let's see where this conversation has led so far.....
Those saying it is impossible, still say things using symantics, "perpetual means absolutely forever and nothing else" sigh and the ever
impressive "you don't know every single intimate detail about physics so you don't know what yur talking about" sigh!
Those for, still saying " there have been countless times in history that all those "brilliant" scientists said it was impossible, and they were
wrong, flight, telephone, radio, moon landing, orbit, celphone, home computer, internal combustion, electricity, nuclear fusion, nuclear fission,
television,organ transplants,remote control,electric motors,satellite communications,etc.....all the way back to fire, the wheel etc..." and also
"perpetual means more than just "forever" as it is known to science that "forever" doesn't even exist, as it would require "infinity" which is
proven through math to not exist" sigh, sigh, double sigh!
So it is the same coversation we always have and get nowhere on, both sides utterly entrenched, and only one open to the infinite possibilities of
this totally unknown universe.
I would just like to add for the naysayers. You guys do understand right, that it is now and has been known for over 20 years, that our current
"standard model" is wrong in several major ways? They had hoped that string or super string or even "M" theory was the answer but it isn't and
they know it, as they have run it ragged and it is also wrong.
We only know, we don't know, and are hopeless to find out even why or how at present. We just don't know, honestly.
The LHC was made to help solve this, it was made for a much more fundamental reason than the finding the Higgs boson, its true reason is discovering
what we are doing wrong, and why we can't figure it out. We may even need a bigger one to solve the riddle.
Our current model seemed so perfect and sublime in the early 50s, but now, after 60 years we have leveled out, we have questions without answers, we
don't even know where to look for them, we are for all intents and purposes lost in the woods.
This has happened may times over the ages though, science has had many platos, we have run out of ideas many times in the past. Then out of nowhere,
another"Einstein" shows up, and opens doors we didn't even know existed, and changes everything overnight.
We simply wait for his or her arrival. We will make another leap, maybe not in this lifetime, maybe not in the next, but that doesn't mean we
Saying "X" is impossible, is an impossible position. It is doomed to fail. As you can't know everything, as those who figured everything we know
out, don't even know. Thinking we or you do is ignorance, and leads nowhere. If anyone would have listened to those that said "X" is impossible, we
wouldn't have harnassed the wheel, or electricity, or flight, or the atom.
In short, by trying to discourage anyone from trying somthing new, your doing the greatest discervice there is in science, you are trying to stop
someone from learning new truths about the universe, and that is not science, that is ignorance incarnate.