Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by AussieDingus
The thing about that whole approach of no tax money while the planet has serious problems is......this is how they get solved in so far as technology
can ever contribute to them. Two things really took the world from the "black and white" days of tommy guns, soup kitchens and Bi-Plane.
#1 World War II and follow on military things
#2 The enormous national effort for the Apollo program and the Moonshot.....as well as the Skylab space station later and then the shuttles.
People down in the trenches and fighting the major problems don't have the time or ability, from there, to solve them. However, the massive
technology demanded as prerequisite to major warfare OR space efforts benefit the world. Think of Velcro and hundreds of other things both small and
large that have improved the standard of living in all kinds of ways. All from one of those two things...
Personally, I'll take space to war. Space is far more exciting and the benefit for loss is one even the people doing it are likely to call worth it
in the greater sense.
Personally, I agree that the war machine shouldn't have any money spent on it either, but this thread was about the science side, not the miliatry,
but I do agree with you on that.
And if all those great things that space exploration brought us, then the question is, could we still of come up with those advancements WITHOUT going
into space ? And why can't we have space exploration that involves equal input from ALL corners instead of what we have today which is nothing more
than an egotistical pissing contest about who can be the first or fastest. Yep, thats tax money well spent !
The cure for poverty can easily be solved by proper management and distrabution of funds, but those funds seem to go to the war machine and space
exploration. No trip or exploration to space is going to come up with a cure to the real problems on this planet. And the cure for cancer is more than
likely [if it hasn't already and been suppressed] to be found either on this planet or under a microscope in a Lab then it is in space. So ALL funds
should go towards these problems before we even think about invading another country or going into space. All that stuff can wait until we have the
real issues addressed.
Its ironic that when people come out saying that a natural product cured their cancer, they get no mainstream meida attention at all despite no
evidence to prove them wrong, yet when people say they were cured by a Nun or a Religious figure, that religious figure gets a sainthood and lots of
media attention. Again, yet further proof of how we all have our priorities mixed up !
When there's a natural product grown or developed on our own planet that could possibly cure cancer, it gets suppressed so everyone stays on the
"miracle drug", yet if a religous figure cures a disease, despite no physical evidence that they did, then its a no questions asked "miracle" ?
Space exploration may of produced a few advancements, but it has also seen NASA spend several million tax payer dollars on making an ink pen that
would work in outer space. At the same time the Russian space program looked on their desk and used a 20 cent pencil. But in all reality, the NASA ink
pen probably only cost $1000 and had the rest written off under "miscellaneous", so it can then be re-directed into a more behind the scenes project
that the majority of society wouldn't agree with if they knew. More than likely some new advanced weapon that can be sold to the war machine in their
next invasion of a country ?
But Operation Paperclip should tell all there is to know about NASA, and i'll let the results speak for themself.
I do wonder though, what all those on the recieving end of the MK Ultra program think about the technological advancements that were used on them ?
And i'm sure all those Nazi's snuck in the back door to start NASA didn't have humanities best interest in mind. You may disagree, but their track
record would back me up !
If the masses had any idea what was happening with MK Ultra, the President would be dragged from the office by his hair today, and the alphabet
agencies would be shut down as well, but most people don't know about it because they're too busy watching the Superbowl, or too busy watching Lady
Gaga's latest filmclip, or maybe watching a guy jump from a balloon ?
But i do get a chuckle that a backyard mechanic can make a car that runs on vegetable oil waste, yet the science world still seems to be behind the
eightball on that one, despite the brains and funds working on the project. Or maybe its a case of having the wrong people, working in the wrong jobs,
with the wrong priorities, which all leads back to our real problems !