reply to post by rhinoceros
The point was that people can be convinced of something having happened to them, but it doesn't make it true.
I was once convinced of no such thing as God. I stated researching and saw that there were claims of direct experiences of an Infinite Beingness. I
read what it took to get there, particularly things concerning mysticism and ego death, and never in million years thought that these direct
experiences would happen to me, but they did. Now I'm 100% convinced that we have existed prior to a body, the real us is units of consciousness
individualized having come from an infinite consciousness, and we will all return to that.
There are too many people having these experiences and NDE's to simply say, "Oh they're just convincing themselves of delusion"
I cannot deny direct experience nor can I deny having remembered pre-existng prior to being in the womb or having a body. On top of that, there are
already scientific theories that consciousness can be non-local and independent of a brain.
Our memory isn't infallible.
That's fine and dandy. Still we have direct experience then. There are blueprints on how to get to these experiences and I have shown at least a
handful of others, 2 of them being former atheists, on how to reach these direct experiences and how to leave the body.
The blueprints are there, but requires one to be neutral of all stances and requires investigation and practice. If you automatically take the stance
that none of this is true, then you will never investigate for yourself and will remain living in a bias bubble of your own making.
Take, for example, my memory of growing in the womb. There's this watery sound and everything is sort of dark red/orange. I was there. Except,
obviously this is not a memory, but just something I saw in the TV. For one, IRL, due to the lack of any light source, I could not have seen anything.
If I didn't know better, I would have a very hard time not knowing that this wasn't a real memory.
Well if you saw this on TV and tricked yourself, that's your own problem. My memory of pre-existence came from the soul level, after doing extensive
inquiry into what "soul" is. It wasn't something that came from the mind, but came from a very deep inner part of self, such as intuition, which
comes prior to the mind and its logic/rational.
Just as well, these experiences which I speak of. They happen instantly and prior to anything that mind can make up. It is only in retrospect does the
mind say, "Wow, so I am consciousness and just experienced the source of who I really am."
Now, if the majority of people had such memories as yours, then I'd say that there was something to it, however, this is obviously not the case.
Of course its not the case because the majority of people have been dumbed down, biased, and aren't looking for or investigating that which I speak
of. The majority of academia is biased against anything God or Soul, the rest of folks simply take what the church tells them on faith, and many more
are wrapped up in the materialism race, or glued to their tv's/smart phones.
Not too many folks go on a philosophical spiritual journey that makes one look within to see what is there. BEcause we are a minority, does not mean
we are not right.
Further still, consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. Prior to your brain having existed, you could not have accumulated any memories.
I disagree 100%. Like I said there are already scientific theories floating around based on non-local consciousness, which means you would need to
update your current knowledge base. Your speaking in absolutes, but you should have a neutral stance and be more open to the possibilities of a
Hell, we don't really even remember in general anything from the first few years of our lives..
At the end of the day, this is just your biased take, and I don't blame you. I too, once was an atheist, looked around at the greatest minds of the
world to see what everyone has to say. I once too was a materialist. However I remained neutral and studied philosophy, mysticism, and religion. When
I eventually found that folks were speaking of experiencing the Infinite .....well how could I ever pass up such an opportunity. I followed some
blueprints and arrived at the destination, and let me tell you there is no place better.
I understand truly where you're coming from, but as a former atheist who knew every argument there was against the soul and God, and now being a
philosopher and mystic, there is just too much fire power for the argument of the existence of the Soul and God and the beautiful thing is the
invitation is open for u to also see for yourself if there is such an experience