Originally posted by metodex
I can't believe the people here.
You really do run into strange people online, yes.
So it's not good to not "sell" to the US but it is ok to give away free oil and sell out to China and Russia.
It's not a question of good or bad but of national independence and selling oil more cheaply to China and Russia is a way of buying their protection,
against direct US action, in the UN/Security council. You may call Chavez many things but he knows that the US kills presidents and invades countries
when it suits their geopolitical ( which is mostly about maintaining the social structures that allows for a effective defense of capitalist wealth
accumulation) aim and thus understands that while he may be buying help it beats once again selling out the future of Venezuela to the west. Even if
it turns out that the Chinese/Russians are the same harsh masters that Washington is at least neither of those countries have a dozen or so carrier
task groups which will enable them to by conventional means lay waste to what makes a county a modern industrial society.
Both Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan ( to name a few recent examples) have tried playing 'the game' with the west whereby they thought they could
'buy' them off to prevent total takeovers buy as it turns out all that did was wet the appetite of the various corporate beasts.
People are so stupid here, they think the evil bankers are everywhere.
I will let you know if i can find milk,coffe and butter tomorrow,or get shot.
'Banking' or bankers can't be inherently evil as we know that even in many corporate capitalist friendly countries the banking system functions in
such a way that the average client is not cheated by his local banker, which is often very well regulated and inspected, but instead by the political
class who instigate/allow the bailouts of this or that ground.
As for the milk or coffee getting i live in just another capitalist not so perfect country where getting those might result in you getting killed but
you do not see me blaming the violence on the utterly unconvincing efforts of the the South-African governments to create a more fair an equitable
economic conditions. Fact is it seems that Venezuela might be a even more violent country ( per capita) than South-Africa so understanding the racist
history of my own country i can only wonder at how badly the Spanish/European segment of Venezuelan society treated the ethic/people of mixed descent:
The people of Venezuela come from a variety of heritages. It is estimated that the majority of the population is of mestizo, or mixed, ethnic
heritage. Venezuela's racial structure can be classified as 49.9% mestizo, 42.2% White, 3.5% African, and 1.1% other races. Indigenous people account
for only 2.7% of the total population. According to an autosomal DNA genetic study conducted in 2008 by the University of Brasilia (UNB) the
composition of Venezuela's population it's: 60.60% of European contribution, 23% of Amerindian contribution and 16,30% of African
So without having done any research( sometimes experience may suffice) worth calling such i would suggest that the violence is not about economics or
politics but about the social order of things with 'whites' hating Chavez for taking away so many of their state protected benefits and privileges
and largely shifting those resources to the poorer segment of that country. The voting results seems to narrowly track the demographics and while that
is not science i would strongly suggest that it's no coincidence either.
P.S: I do not own any villa,i am not rich, i am a student that wants to graduate and work and support my family.
Yes, we have some 'poor' whites, but mostly just all whites ( who fail to understand the irony in now being treated less preferentially than they
used to be) , in South-Africa too that hate the new non-white government for forcing them to compete in a job sector that now favors the employment of
formerly disadvantage ethic groups/women.
Fact is if you speak English and can pass yourself off of being of mostly European descent your prejudices would probably help you to fit right in
here but if you look a bit 'ethnic' odds are you will have to suffer the humiliating fate of being treated as the second class citizen; something i
would hazard that you have no experience of so perhaps a good lesson in humility then.
But maybe you are just a misguided ethnic up and going places capitalist in which case you really should stop whining as you should know better than
believing that the world is a fair having long ago accepted that as a capitalist you are completely responsible for your fate and that if you are
struggling you just need to pull harder on those boot straps of yours.