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Originally posted by milominderbinder
You don't even have the most rudimentary understanding of the judeo-christian tradition...do you?
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by truejew
Jesus didn't give a specific day to do communion man, all he said was when we do it, to do it in remembrance of him.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Explain this, even the real Jews scratch their heads and then ignore what their own scripture teaches.
Genesis 1.
Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26).
If you can then you can go out and teach all the Rabbis and Jewish Scholars, cos they dont have an answer
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by borntowatch
Explain this, even the real Jews scratch their heads and then ignore what their own scripture teaches.
Genesis 1.
Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26).
If you can then you can go out and teach all the Rabbis and Jewish Scholars, cos they dont have an answer
God was speaking to the Angels.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by borntowatch
Explain this, even the real Jews scratch their heads and then ignore what their own scripture teaches.
Genesis 1.
Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth" (Genesis 1:26).
If you can then you can go out and teach all the Rabbis and Jewish Scholars, cos they dont have an answer
God was speaking to the Angels.
Originally posted by LeSigh
Actual conversations in the Talmud between God and angels never use we/us pronouns. The Talmud is full of plural verbs, nouns, and adjectives in the Hebrew when referring to God.
Originally posted by LeSigh
ETA- and I just noticed what thread this was. I'm really not thrilled about the title/subject of the thread. It doesn't make friends and it isn't edifying.
Originally posted by borntowatch
So Angels can create as well, cool Angels, might just have to pray to them as well.
Originally posted by borntowatch
I have a few issues with Jehovah witness doctrine, but I will not get into an argument.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Your explanation does not answer the question.
No. Only God created. In verse 27, it was He who created, not them or they. If the plural in verse 26 was proof of a trinity, verse 27 would also use a plural for God.
My explanation is the traditional Jewish explanation.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by truejew
No. Only God created. In verse 27, it was He who created, not them or they. If the plural in verse 26 was proof of a trinity, verse 27 would also use a plural for God.
The word "elohim" was often used. Elohim is plural.
I find it strange when trinitarians and atheists think they know more about The Hebrew language than those who originally wrote the books.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by grahag
reply to post by milominderbinder
Any religion that you can get kicked out of or is exclusive can not be a religion of peace.
Of the major religions out there, Buddhism is closest to peaceful, but a religion is only as peaceful as it's people are. Religion is inherently NOT peaceful.
I agree with you on that one.
Buddhism is the ONLY major religion in the history of the world (tribal religions excluded) that has shown a CONSISTENT effort to resist being hijacked for warfare. When was the last time you saw a Catholic Bishop , TV evangelist, Rabbi, or Islamic Cleric torch themselves to protest a war? Can anybody name a single war in history in which the Buddhists went out to violently subjugate or convert the "non-believers" so they could all go to Nirvana together?
The closest anybody can really get is that some Japanese Buddhists were conscripted to fight in WWII by the secular government...but that's a FAR CRY from a religious war.
Yeah I can
Buddhists are nasty and violent terryorisms.com...
Dont let the truth get in the way of a good lie.
Do you read
Buddhist Warfare
By Michael Jerryson, Mark Juergensmeyeredit on 9-10-2012 by borntowatch because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by milominderbinder
You don't even have the most rudimentary understanding of the judeo-christian tradition...do you?
I know the trinity doctrine very well and have discussed it with many trinitarians over the past 16 years. I know that some trinitarians say the trinity is three gods in unity and some avoid calling them three gods. Those who avoid it are in denial. The trinity is three gods.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by LeSigh
Actual conversations in the Talmud between God and angels never use we/us pronouns. The Talmud is full of plural verbs, nouns, and adjectives in the Hebrew when referring to God.
The Talmud is Babylonian Jewish and is not accepted by true Judaism.
Originally posted by LeSigh
ETA- and I just noticed what thread this was. I'm really not thrilled about the title/subject of the thread. It doesn't make friends and it isn't edifying.
I did not start the thread.
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Originally posted by grahag
reply to post by milominderbinder
Any religion that you can get kicked out of or is exclusive can not be a religion of peace.
Of the major religions out there, Buddhism is closest to peaceful, but a religion is only as peaceful as it's people are. Religion is inherently NOT peaceful.
I agree with you on that one.
Buddhism is the ONLY major religion in the history of the world (tribal religions excluded) that has shown a CONSISTENT effort to resist being hijacked for warfare. When was the last time you saw a Catholic Bishop , TV evangelist, Rabbi, or Islamic Cleric torch themselves to protest a war? Can anybody name a single war in history in which the Buddhists went out to violently subjugate or convert the "non-believers" so they could all go to Nirvana together?
The closest anybody can really get is that some Japanese Buddhists were conscripted to fight in WWII by the secular government...but that's a FAR CRY from a religious war.
Originally posted by borntowatch
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
What do the rest of the Christians on ATS have to say about this? Do they agree?
Christians believe Jehovah witnesses are a cult
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Indeed, both JW's and Mormons are cults. Mormons do not believe Jesus is the physical incarnation of God in the flesh, they believe Jesus is a god but not the Almighty. They also believe they will get their own planet to populate. Neither one are of orthodox christianity.edit on 10-10-2012 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)
and the Jews killed Jesus because he said He was God (John 10 33) The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God,"
then one would assume either Jesus was a liar and deserved death
or was God and was resurrected.
Cant have it both ways sadly, cant have Jesus as just a man and then killed because he claimed to be only a man.
If He lied His death was justified as a punishment and His resurrection would be void
The non Trinitarian argument fails under the logic of Judaism and the NT