More Blatant Lies From The Media...This Time It's Really Bad!, page 2


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reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 10:51 AM by bigjerm
reply to post by abdel



But is it not the Muslim belief that for in order for the True Savior to come , they have to commit Jihad against all infidels of islam or is this just radical islamists ?



reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 11:08 AM by synnergy
Forgive me, I am perplexed at what appears to be a contradiction.
I read every word, had I not known the author I would feel inspired. Maybe I am anyway, regardless.

I have read ATS since about 2008, defended it to my friends and family for years.
Being most impressed by the urging of believing in nothing, until it's researched and seen by your own eyes.
These words just read, are a compiled example of what is introduced often an argued on this very site. Like our governments actions, intent of wars, oppression of people, and the list goes on and on.

It appears it is the messenger that people are rejecting. Or is it the message as well?
How many leaders have we seen stand up and proclaim the very things that we have been criticized as conspirators for believing?
And for all the world to see. Remind me please, when that has happened.

Its not difficult to see why so many find the author to be lacking in authenticity. I understand. However, do not we all say the same about our own leaders? It is admirable that we defend freedom and the oppressed, and side with those we feel have no platform or voice. And we call out those who lead them in such a manner.
Things are not forgotten, it is clear. Can't we see that it is the same for our leaders actions?
Remember, they have angered us plenty, as well.
Why are we picking sides? Why not hear the message? Why not see how our reactions fall into their perfect plan to rally the people up for war?
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reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 11:26 AM by inverslyproportional
reply to post by Corruption Exposed



You know, I think that was one of the best speeches I have ever read. It was absent divisive rhetoric, or theats, or even trying to place one nation above any other.

It was a speech for all of Man, and should be read by all, as there is obviously much wisdom in these words.

Never thought I would be saying things about this man, but I agree totally with everything he said, I do not decent on any point he made at all.

It was seriously a work of art.

So where was all the hate speech I read about in the news?


reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 01:38 PM by Panic2k11
reply to post by hp1229




Only journalism that might exist in its true form is forums and blogs


They are starting to take control of that too, it is harder, more complex but at least they can influence the dialog, they do not need to control all just the top 10% more active ones...



reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 02:07 PM by logical7
Originally posted by bigjerm
reply to
post by abdel



But is it not the Muslim belief that for in order for the True Savior to come , they have to commit Jihad against all infidels of islam or is this just radical islamists ?

Muslims dont "have to" but its a belief, a prophecy that islam would be attacked n then need defenders to fight.


reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 02:15 PM by PatriotGames2
There is no doubt that many of these Middle Eastern peoples do not like Israel, or the United States, but the propaganda used to push us into war with them without adequate evidence is appalling. Even the 'evidence' cited so often by professionals and scholars falls short of the appropriate standards but the American public has been so brainwashed into thinking our country does no evil and our enemies are the Devil incarnate they will swallow anything shoved in their face, for the most part.

Even after debunking all of the crap used against Iran, like them allegedly saying they wanted Israel wiped off the map,
Lost in translation, which is not what was said...

....and all of the videos used against them with subtitles and translations from MEMRI, MEMRI Mossad Op which is founded and run by an ex-IDF member and are highly questionable, that shouldn't be trusted at all unless you yourself speak Farsi and can understand what is being said, people still will come up with a reason Iran and the Muslims are bad.

After all, they want to wage jihad on all of us and bring about the Mahdi or the 12th Imam or whatever. What are they waiting for? They've been around for quite some time, are they going to start waging wars on everyone? Or are they going to settle for ineffective suicide bombing and guerrilla tactics? When are the Crusades coming back? That should be exciting.


reply posted on 28-9-2012 @ 02:50 PM by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by gravitational



I said:


“We all know that all news outlets are agenda driven, but this is just ridiculous!”


Then you said:


I see you have a nasty habit of writing “we all know” in many of your posts.
WHO exactly IS “WE” you arrogantly keep speaking off ?


Are you denying that news outlets are driven by various agendas?

This thread is a perfect example of news outlets carrying out their agenda.

I know we never agree on most topics but it is a known fact these media outlets carry out specific agendas, all of them...Press TV, BBC, CNN, FOX...ALL OF THEM!

And if you really don't know what the definition of "we" is then perhaps you should pick up a dictionary.
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