Originally posted by Wonderer2012
So when a former Brookings guy who is an expert on Israeli influence on American foreign policy says the carriers are vulnerable during this exercise,
then I'm taking note of what he says given Israel's links to false flag events in the past.
He could have the best recipe for clam spaghetti, too, but that doesn't mean he knows anything at all about the defensive characteristics of aircraft
carriers. To him, as a foreign policy analyst, a carrier is nothing more than a pawn on a chess board to be moved around in theoretical discussions.
Dollars to donuts he has never been on a carrier. Believe what you want, of course, including this completely silly idea of a false flag involving the
1. The opening post is biased. Why? Because it quotes an article out of context without even admitting there is an opposite point of view. Read the
ENTIRE article and you come away with a much different idea of what the issues are. And it's PBS, not exactly a paragon of "objective" news
reporting. It's as far left as Fox is right. We did not "miss" the fact that the Enterprise is there. We've known about it since March 11, when it
2. Aircraft carriers are not lone sitting ducks. They have fast attack submarines beneath them, a squadron of Aegis Class destroyers and cruisers
surrounding them, and the most sophisticated defense system ever devised over the entire Strike Group of 10-12 ships. They never sail alone. Anyone
who thinks a swarm of rubber dinghies with suicide bombers aboard can harm a carrier is not thinking straight. It's like thinking you and your Glock
19 are a match for the SWAT team. It's a fantasy.
3. The exercises in the Gulf are perfectly normal and reasonable given the threat Iran has expressly made about closing the Strait. The US has doubled
its mine sweeping presence, along with 30 other countries, and deployed the USS Ponce as a forward deployed staging base for MCM activities. (Want a
false flag? The Ponce is an old boat, too, which has been refurbished for this operation and is not a nuke. Go sink it and take out MCM capabilities
along with it.)
4. We will never "invade" Iran with ground troops. It's a mountainous country worse than Afghanistan, not a jaunt across a flat desert like Iraq.
We can do a shock and awe air campaign, but trops on the ground are unlikely. They aren't even available to use. It takes a logistical "build-up"
and there isn't one.
5. The Enterprise being in the area is perfectly normal in every respect. Believe it or not, the US is stretched thin on carriers. 3 of 11 aren't
even deployable. The Lincoln, for example, will be laid up and torn apart for about four years. 4 are deployed. 4 are in home port. You can't deploy
a carrier without months of training. They do COMPUTEX and air qualifications before they even think of deploying. The next ship out of the shipyard
won't be ready until 2015. That means we'll be down to 10 carriers very shortly and stay that way for at least three years,.
6. Sinking the Enterprise in the Gulf is about the most ludicrous, stupidest, most insane idea ever hatched up. It has eight nuclear reactors. Do you
honestly think that the US would do this to "save money"????? It would effectively "nuke" the entire Gulf, close the Strait indefinitely, be an
environmental nightmare that would make the Gulf Oil Spill and Exxon Valdez look like a two gallon oil spill at a marina, and put a whole new
definition on the word "recession." It would take 50 years for the entire world to recover from something like that. A wuss like Obama would never
agree to that. It took him two years to take out Osama. Not that someone else couldn't start it, but it won't come from the US.
7. Here's what's going to happen. The MCM exercise will be over this Thursday. The Stennis will arrive on station within a week or two. The
Enterpise will then leave the area, sail through the Suez, make a pit stop or two in Italy or Spain, then sail to Norfolk where it will be ultimately
decommissioned with great pomp and ceremony.
I know that's not as exciting as the crapola put forth as gospel truth and penetrating analysis on ATS, but that's what is going to happen.