reply to post by Firefly_
If you wind someone up, if you press their buttons, with the intent to make them react, then you are equally as responsible for their actions.
Were these people made to watch this video involuntarily?
I have not watched this movie, and neither do I intend to waste my time on it, but it seems that both sides in this are as bad as each other.
When will people wake up and realise that religion serves no good whatsoever? The amount of blood that gets spilled because of ignorance is terrible.
Religion is the excuse people use to kill each other. Nothing more. If they didn't have religion, it would be some other concept they would use to
kill each other.
Perhaps it would be eugenics. Perhaps it would be political ideology. Perhaps they would kill each other in the midst of debates over scientific
People are often ignorant of the predatory and sociological instincts that influence our emotions and impulses. Because of this, they are vulnerable
to those influences.
Before the conscious mind can have a chance at truly ruling one's actions, one must learn to become conscious of and embrace the reality of their
I am completely against religion, but as long as those who practice it do so without bothering me, then I will just let them be. I have no
right to enforce my beliefs on them just as they have no right to do so to me.
I associate most closely with the protestant denominations of Christianity. That said - I am more of a spiritualist than a religious person. Since I
believe in a somewhat personable God - I believe God gave me the exceptionally inquisitive mind that I have for a reason (or made it possible for us
to have such inquisitive minds - and I just happen to be that eventuality). So, I have no reservations in applying my mind to the facets of Religion
- from the good to the silly to the bad.
I enjoy it when I run into people who believe the Bible to be the literal, infallible word of God... and then I ask them simple questions like who
discovered Jesus' body missing from the tomb, and point out that each author tells a slightly different story.
Faith unchallenged is faith undeveloped. Plus, I admit it's fun to see the look on their faces and the arguments they try and come up with to
explain it while still remaining in the "God made this" line of reasoning.
Ultimately - they'll believe what they want to.
The only time I get downright belligerent, however, is when people start using the pulpit to preach politics. That I don't stand for. Anyone who
does that speaks with a forked tongue - regardless of their position. It's one thing to have a political opinion and share your faith - it's
another to try and tell people that God wants one candidate in the white-house or the other.
But I'm straying off topic.
The point is - people will use whatever they have at their disposal to justify killing each other. They can't simply own up to it and say: "meh, I
am just going to kill this douche because I feel like it." - they have to try and hide behind various impersonal ideas to deflect the
That's really all it amounts to.
For example - many women in, say, Afghanistan will be stoned in the town square for Adultery. In reality - she didn't do anything wrong. The man
simply wanted another wife (he's got an upper limit of three but has to be able to afford that many, and most can't). Divorces aren't really
allowed - so you accuse her of adultery, kill her, and take the new wife for a spin.
The same thing happens in our society - though a little less often because we have divorce. However - it exists in our history with overly
restrictive laws in society (Salem Witch Trials, anyone? - most excitement those girls got to see in their lives, I imagine).
Sure - religious ideals were behind the restrictions; but you saw similar things happen in Russia under oppressive regimes. Perhaps not to the same
extent, because of the different objects of oppression - but history shows that policies that restrict natural human behaviors involuntarily tend to
create the type of environment we see in the Middle East - where people make up excuses to kill each other and act up.